Pioneer Fall Ride (Harrodsburg KY)

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  1. Sourjon

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    Drag that grouch old fart along with you! I'm in.

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  2. JACIII

    JACIII Been here awhile

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    I'm there.
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  3. Huck369

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    Just found out about this this morning....would love to have gone, but already had plans...I guess I should check in here more, instead of riding all the time :)....maybe the next one...
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  4. markdvk

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    Thanks to Ahilis, the paved only route is pretty much complete. When I first started looking at the map of the area we had chosen, I was getting concerned that there wasn't much there. Ahilis keeps finding some really good roads. Some have been practically in my back yard since I was 16 and I've never seen them.

    Right now we're working on what to leave in and what to cut out in the interest of keeping the mileage right around 175. The next task is to go back to the editing software and add in the dirty sections for those willing and able.

    Expect preview photos soon.
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  5. markdvk

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    I don't expect to see any water here. The roadway has a place where a creek can run across the road. It's not a moss covered slate creek bottom. But it's looking like the dual sport route will contain a little water.:nod
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    Mark Sampson loves these little bridges for some reason. If only it was a suspended bridge he'd probably ride over here from Illinois to see it.
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    Here's your signs. Four of them so you'll be sure to turn. If you need those signs on this little tight road, you'd better stay home or walk.
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  6. FYYFFKY

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    Man those are some promising pictures

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  7. mbabc

    mbabc Curmudgeon trainee

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    Looks great Mark!
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  8. Sourjon

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    Looking forward to this.

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  9. markdvk

    markdvk Been here awhile

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    Before you visit the link below, please note that the dirt, rock, or water sections shown in these photos WILL NOT be included in the "street" version of the route. Ahilis took those photos on part of the "dirt" route.

    If you've crossed flat rock bottom creeks before, you know that they can impossibly slick like an ice rink with baby oil on it. Then there are crossings that have very good traction. The ones we have crossed are somewhere in between. They are slick but we managed with very light control inputs. The water level on the deepest has been about footpeg level on a KLR.

    Here you go:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/1183...auUnImYhxtUzr-o&cfem=1&authkey=CIbCuMzt3sLvZQ
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  10. woodly1069

    woodly1069 Long timer

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    Hey Mark, think a buddy and I are gonna try to make this. Any tracks put together yet?
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  11. markdvk

    markdvk Been here awhile

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    The tracks/route are pretty much complete. I'm going to drive the street version before we post it. I like to do that from beginning to end to proof it before posting. Sometimes surprises can occur.

    Yes, driving. Not riding. I have a tail bone nerve issue that I've been nursing for awhile and the bike aggravates it more than the truck. Miss my Vstrom.
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  12. CatBus

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    I recognize quite a bit of that. It looks like it should be a good ride. Hopefully I will be able to make it out.

    I spent quite a bit of time in 2004 mapping out everything in the greater Lexington area. I have organized a couple dozen mixed terrain and paved rides through the kyadvriders site and here, since then. The last one was last year.

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803526
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  13. markdvk

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    Catbus, I recognize some of your photos too. It looks like you covered more off road areas than we will. In one of your photos, there's a blue helmet and bag lying in the middle of a dry rocky creek. That looks like the creek on the trail between Carver's ferry and Whitlock. Two of us tried to go through there last week (at night) and we finally ran into a posted and locked gate. Apparently the county has stopped maintaining that section and it's reverted back to the land owner. That would have been a good section.

    Like you mentioned in your thread, if you're going to ride the off road sections, something larger than a KLR might be tough. Ground clearance would be the most likely limit coming out of the creek onto Dry Branch. And the possibility of dropping the bike in one of the water crossings is very real. The GS and Super Tenere's can be expensive to drop.

    I've not seen any places along out route that a reasonable dual sport tire wouldn't work. Knobbies would be better in a few short spots but probably not a requirement. The old style KLR I was on had the stock tires.

    Rain? Let's hope there's not any within the week before the ride. We are probably crossing some of the same places you did. Of the two crossings we saw last week, 1 was at foot peg depth on a KLR and had a little current. There was some traction but we were very gentle on the controls so nobody got their elbows wet.
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  14. CatBus

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    Carver's Ferry Rd has been gated since about 2007. For a while it was gated at both ends, but only the Whitlock end has been gated since about 2009. A local kid told me it was a bad idea to be in that area at all (he said some people were up to illegal things, and that is why the gate was put up). I really don't like leading mixed terrain rides in the area anymore, because I am afraid someone will go back alone, take a wrong turn/go exploring, and end up in a bad position (which could have happened here, and your partner may even be someone who rode with me before). It used to be one of the coolest stretches of gravel in the area :/

    You can pick it up at the Whitlock end, and follow it down Silver Creek. You used to be able to run the entire length of Silver Creek, but within the past few years, it has been shut down in places.

    If you link the picture with the blue helmet, I can probably tell you where it is.

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  15. markdvk

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    Here's another selection of photos from the full street route.

    One of the first skinny roads. If you meet one of those Harley "something" glides in full dress, one of you is going to have to pull off the road to let the other one pass.

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    Evidence of heavy traffic on Back Creek Rd.
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    Well, it's the only way to cross the river in that area. And if it was good for the first Icebreaker, it's ok on this route too.
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    Don't worry too much if your bike leaks a little coolant. About 80% of this route has running water parallel to the pavement.
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    Old Railroad Rd.
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    If you have Inga locked up, let her go.
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    My guess is that this might have been a CCC project back in the day.
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    The mill...
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    and the boiler at the mill.
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    The real estate in most of Woodford county is just a little more expensive.
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    Scenery recognized by the local riders.
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    Headed back to the start. About 16 miles to go.
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    Because of the really low speeds that will be required on many of the roads in the route, I'll likely have an alternate abbreviated route that covers the best features but cuts off 40-60 miles. Less experienced riders would likely require nearly 7 hours to complete the full route. I covered it today in about 5:20 (in a truck unfortunately) with stops for photos and 1 for fuel. The truck said 176 miles total.
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  16. woodly1069

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    Looks fantastic!
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  17. KTMmer950

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    Mark sorry to hear about you not being able to ride. I hope it doesn't take long to get you back in the saddle. So what is your count on the number of riders this year? I know there are several of us from Indiana coming down. I look forward to your rides every year. :clap:freaky:clap
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  18. markdvk

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    I don't have a good count. But I'm expecting around 40-50 based on our last ride. There may be more of our local riders than in the past rides because there's a version of the route without gravel roads.
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  19. RoadDad

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    Mark--This looks too good to pass up. I plan on riding down Friday afternoon. Is there a place to camp near town or a motel? Camping depends on the weather outlook.
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  20. markdvk

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    Camping Option #1: Cummins Ferry Campground is about 20 minutes North.
    Expect a gravel road leading off of the pavement down to the camp ground.
    http://cumminsferry.com/

    Camping Option #2: Free stealth camping in a corner of a 5 acre hay field we own behind our shop. It's well hidden from public view but there's no facilities of any kind. Probably not too quite either until late at night because one of the nearby streets gets driven by young cruising car drivers who occasionally come by "on the gas".

    There are several reasonable hotels in Harrodsburg and Danville too.

    Glad you're coming to ride.
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