Pirelli Scorpion Trails or Conti Trail Attacks?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by UlyRider, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. UlyRider

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    I have a 2006 Buell Ulysses and have gone through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Trails. 6500 miles and very impressed. 4500 miles of that was tripping through Colorado and Montana packed with gear. My question is the justification of $110 more for the Conti Trail Attacks. Can I expect better millage and performance from them? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you, Lon
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    I really like the Conti Trail Attacks, but the word "trail" in the name is somewhat misleading. These are road/hard pack tires.

    BTW- I never got more than 6.5k miles out of a rear CTA.....
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  3. UlyRider

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    Thanks for the reply. Pirelli's "Trails" are pretty much the same. But for $110 cheaper, looks like I will stick with the Pirelli's.
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  4. Boxmonkey

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    I just replaced the Scorpion Trails on my Tiger 800 with Conti TAs, and so far I am very happy. For me they are much smoother and more stable on road. I got 7600 miles from the Pirellis and hope to match that with the Contis. However gravel is the extent of my off roading, so trail performance wasn't an issue for me. The set was only $293 from Jake Wilson in my sizes, not sure what sizes you need for a Uly.
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  5. RDhead

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    I have a 08 Uly that I just put a new scorpion 2 on the rear. For the price I'll stick with the Pirelli's. 7500 miles on the first one.
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  6. UlyRider

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    Thanks again for the replies! I've got 6500 miles on the my Scorpion Trails and they could still go father. Would love to try the Trail Attacks but am having a hard time justifying the additional cost. Still on the fence... Thanks again!
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  7. JRWooden

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    This is a chart that I saw referenced on UKGSers ... I think.....
    I can't vouch for its accuracy ... but I think it is on the up-and-up:

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  8. UlyRider

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    Very nice comparison! Too bad the Dunlop's don't come in a 180 rear... Thanks! Good info!!!
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  9. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Never had the Pirellis other than the 950 type scorpions. Put on CTA this year and am thrilled with performance as well as life. Useless on anything more than a gravel road, but brilliant in all road conditions. Much better tip in, zero drama at the edge, quiet, very smooth. My ideal tire.

    I have prob 2500 miles on them and they are wearing very well. I'm hard on tires and my bike has 140 hp...

    I bought them this winter for $225 for the pair shipped, guessing they are no where near that now.
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  10. UlyRider

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    So far, for a set of Trail Attacks I would be looking at $410. Scorpion Trails are $300 for the Uly. Plus I have yet to see any availability for the front tire. So it might not matter....
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    Sock Monkey 99% bullshitter...the other 1% is just lies

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    Us MTS12 riders are in the same boat with our 190 rear wheel. I went through my Scorpion Trails in 9k miles (I'm super easy on tires) but the front wore very oddly. It looked like this \_/. Three squared off regions (mostly commute miles). I attributed it to it being dual-compound, and I've seen this exact same wear pattern on other dual-compound tires, but I've heard the front Scorp Trail is NOT dual-compound, so :dunno . I was waiting for the Conti TA, but as you found the front still isn't available and I needed tires NOW, so I got the Conti RA2. As others have commented, the Conti turns in quicker, and has really good grip at any angle. I have 1400 miles on them, and so far the wear seems about the same as the Scorps. I would expect the TA's to have the same turn in, less on-road grip due to the differences in technologies used on the two tires, and better grip on hard pack unsealed roads vs. the RA. Both will suck in soft stuff (sand, mud, etc).

    Good luck in your decision!

    -SM
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  12. UlyRider

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    Not giving up hope yet! I have a couple weeks before I get home. Stores are starting to show the rear tire. So hopefully soon they will be stocking the fronts. My front tire also wore oddly. Cupped every other block and developed the same "V" shape as you. Crossing my fingers!!!
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  13. AceRider01

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    on my vstrom 650, i have used anakee2, Trailwing, Scorpion trails, and Conti Trail Attack - >95% tarmac riding - i can comment on the followings:

    1) LIFE: my 1st set of Trail Attack lasted over 15,000km; Scorpion wasnt pushing to get to 11,000km - as a comparison basis- all other tyres last between 10-12k with my riding styles - so i get 30% to 50% more life than other tyres i tried.

    2) TARMAC GRIP/handling: TA wins convincingly against the rest of the pack. - think of as a sports bike tyre which doesnt even pretend to look like a dual sport tyre. It is the only tyre i have used that is totally oblivious to ridges & tar snakes on road;

    3) unpaved road: Scorpion Trails wins against all other tyres - very steady- This is very surprising as the pattern looks very much like road tyre - but it is surprisingly competent!!!
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  14. SkiFastBadly

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    Same here:
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    The asymmetric wear is a mystery, but you can see how the center has a ridge. Not sure how many miles because I bought the bike used.
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  15. UlyRider

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    Looks just like mine. Going to try and wait for the TAs.
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  16. JamesG

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    I think the Pirellis are multi compound tires, ie: the center has a harder compound that the sides. Combine this with corners and crowned roads. and...
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  17. Sock Monkey

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    That looks similar to mine Ski, but without the cupping. What pressure do you run up front, and did you ever let it get low? It almost looks like it wasn't balanced correctly..... :huh

    -SM
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  18. Mikef5000

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    Not sure how balance would effect tire wear :huh. I stopped balancing my tires several years ago when I learned racers don't bother, and they're hitting corners at triple digit speeds. I've gone through half a dozen sets of tires since then, and never once have I had an out-of-balance one. Sorry, neither here nor there.

    My front Scorpion trail flat spotted in the center, but that's due to the many straight miles on highways and such. Overall though I LOVED those tires. If I could stick to mostly pavement I would use those tires forever. My first set, mostly easy commuter and solo touring, lasted about 12,000 miles. Second set was almost entirely hard 2-up touring, and fully loaded hardcore solo touring, it was toast at about 7500 miles. Third set has about 7000 miles on them (still loaded hardcore solo touring miles), and they're closing in on their demise. Probably 1000 miles left, maybe a bit more.
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  19. SkiFastBadly

    SkiFastBadly A beer? Yes, please

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    I generally run at 34PSI. I have a whole "WTF?" thread on badweb, the Uly board. I replaced my own fork seal last year, and without going into detail, the right fork was about 1/4" lower than the left. I theorized that caused the asymmetric wear, but you know how the internet is, I got more opinions on the cause than beer has bubbles. Some said it was road crown, but I don't buy it. My other bikes ride on the same road and show no such wear.
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  20. JTucker

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    I run 40psi in my front scorp trail, it is pretty much worn out now but is wearing normal. Currently has almost 8k on it. The rear went 6k, the most I've gotten on either Buell. PR2 is on there now, hoping for more miles.
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