plastic or alu panniers

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Academy, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Ours measures 37 inches wide, our left case is set out 1 inch to get around our spare fuel tank, thus they would only be 36 that they are advertised at.

    We are running the Jesse Odysseys on our SE and love them, we ran Pelican 1550s on the DR's, the 31L Pelican 1550 weighs .75 kg heavier the the 41L Jesse locks, mountings and all ready to put on the bike.

    The op wanted to know plastic or alloy so I won't worry about softies.

    With the Odysseys these cleverly bring the weight in low and close to the centreline and do not stick out like a bus.

    Having had several brands and types I am sold on Jesses, I have worked on Zegas after a GS 12 rolled and they were parallelogramed very badly and had split, although we have not binned on our new Jesses I know plenty of others who have in spectacular form and they have stood up far better, NOTHING is crash proof.

    Jesses strength come from triangulation and folds and finish wise are powdercoated inside and out, also with the Odysseys you can adjust the postion of the case forward and backward 5 inches so you can play with the weight to suit your rising style or passenger etc.

    That is our 2 cents worth, if you are looking to do hard core offroad consider Wolfman, if you are RTWing like us or traveling dirt and pavement with smaller offroad stick with hards.

    This is our setup, although on and SE I would be happy to put up pics of any queries.

    Cheers Andi

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  2. Wantajustride

    Wantajustride Been here awhile

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    Thanks Paul,,
    I'll be checking into that hosting site.

    I do agree with your point of view Andi. The Jesse's look great on the bike. The contours of the cases tuck in nicely.
    Great bike setup for RTW travel you have there.
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  3. Av8rPaul

    Av8rPaul Have bike will travel

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    Your bike looks like Clark Kent after he exits the phone booth.
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  4. ciedema

    ciedema мотоциклист

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    And Frankly I think Andi Jesse's would survive much better in crash than my Gobi's. I have seen the two side by side. The Jesse's seem to me to be a much, much better box.
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  5. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Although yours is bigger than mine what you are saying is mine is better ... does Sharon know this :D

    I promise to show photos WHEN our bike goes down cos it will .... hopefully not at big speeds.

    I have to agree from an engineering perspective the Jesses are far better built for strength with the corners, folds and shorter sheet/panel sizes but as I said NOTHING is crash proof, see Ellens old Pelicans even with the Kiwi hardwood crash rail

    This was on the RHS of Ellens bike at only 80 km/hr (50mphr) get off on the tarmac

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  6. Whele

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    I would have to say if you can afford it, go with aluminum cases. Better security, great protection against water ingress, they make a great camping seat and can withstand huge crashes (although they may deform they can always be knocked back in shape) so your trip can continue

    I have Metal Mule boxes which come anodized both inside and outside, they come in very narrow options (31 liters per box) and their pannier racks are indestructible. The boxes are removed by just throwing one lever and when the lids lock down the release lever is locked down too. It takes just one second to remove and to secure the boxes back on the bike. In Slovakia I dropped the bike in a river crossing and even having been submerged for 5 minutes, everything inside was dry. The anodizing prevents the dreaded black aluminum dust when something rubs the inside and the recessed handles mean stuff (loaf of bread or water bladder) can be carried on top of the boxes under the optional cargo top netting. The lids hinge outward and lock at the 180 degree position, which is really useful when loading stuff in and out of the boxes when on the side of the road.

    In Morocco one of the boxes took the full impact of a 18 ton bus hitting it at 40km/h, it remained attached to the panier rack and obviously the bike, but although extensively deformed it took 30 minutes with a hammer and bead beaker tool to get it back in shape and fully operational again, including locking securely. The rack did bent slightly from the huge impact, but it was still usable. I guess the movement of the rack is probably what saved to frame of the bike from being damaged, but again and hour with a bench vice and hammer got it back in perfect shape.

    Finally, when flying to New Zealand with the boxes last year (to be loaded on a rental bike) they even emerged unscathed from the baggage handlers best destruction attempts. .... but you have to pay for that quality, and at close to £1,000 for the box and rack system - cheap they aren't
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  7. Beema Killa

    Beema Killa Beema Killa

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    I wasn't even considering these but they are really slick so I bought em. Givi Trekkers. Very versatile. Can replace each piece individually if crashed, move from side to top if you like and a slick opening system. Only one key required. I also use a twisted throttle dry bag for day trips with my rotopax on.
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  8. HellSickle

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    You're not going to be able to glue HDPE. Sorry. Your best bet is plastic welding.

    My wife wadded one of her trail tech aluminum bags in BC. We took it to the nearest ship yard for repair. Not pretty, but it works. I would not go with the flimsy aluminum bags.

    My old aluminum Hepco Beckers are much more durable.

    I'm currently running the Gobi's on my 990. They are very sturdy. I often see straps around them to take up some play.
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  9. Xtremjeepn

    Xtremjeepn Motorhead!

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