Platform versus body dilema

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Threewheelbonnie, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. Threewheelbonnie

    Threewheelbonnie Long timer

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    Looking at the various picture posts below and thinking about some of the places I've been/am planning to go, I can't decide about replacing the Ural body on the Triumph with an open platform for when I'm on my own.

    Advantages of a body IMHO:

    Keeps things out of sight.
    Slightly more streamlined?
    Has "chuck it in and go" ability with some weather proofing.
    Could carry a passenger even without the seat in an emergency.
    Already fitted, so zero cost and no swapping bodies to carry the dog/wife.

    Advantages of a platform?

    Would be about 30kg (70lb??) lighter.
    Could be marginally lower cross section.
    Easier to get bulky items like the spare wheel lower/further out.
    Everything would be in plain sight, no more rummaging in the nose.

    Having had a play about with a sheet of plywood on the chassis I've half concluded that with the amount of gear I've got and the fact that I'd probably screw a pair of Touratech boxes to the back of the platform I'd gain very little by the time I'd done. I've played with makeing a platform that'd fold out into a bed, but concluded it'd weigh a lot, be narrow and I wouldn't be happy unloading everything every night.

    Has anyone else done the open platform thing? How's it compare to a body?

    My platform would be a 1m (3 foot) square 3mm aluminium checker plate with maybe 15cm/6" angled entry, sort of like a glorified bash plate bolted to the Ural main chassis tubes without the rubber buffers. Is this the sort of construction other people are using?

    Cheers

    Andy
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  2. RedMenace

    RedMenace Adventure Sidecar

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    I made sort of a compromise between the two, not for cargo but for hooligan fun. Originally there wasn't a seat back, but I added a small seat as a compromise for my wife. The seat could be unbolted for when my buddies were up for a tear...

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  3. johno

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    This is mine, and since have fitted a full size box.(no photos yet)
    1st attempt at a sidecar:D
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  4. Ivan Rider

    Ivan Rider Been here awhile

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    I took the sidecar body off my Ural to have Bed Liner sprayed in it. So for 2 week I drove around with just a plywood platform. It needed a hundred pounds of sand to hold the sidecar down or it was undriveable. I've had 2 cargo rigs which are neat for hauling things but when parked in town I always worried about things walking away. I'd keep the tub on it so you can secure things.
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  5. Rockman

    Rockman Been here awhile

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    I recon a lockable box which can be interchanged with the sidecar body is the way to go. The body on mine unbolts by removing 7 nuts and one wiring plug. If you had a mudguard on the box they could be swapped in about 1/2 an hour and away you go. Maybe bevel the front of the box for streamlining. I'm planning something like this for a bush trip later in the year, maybe with a fold out bed on top. Phil
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  6. Uncle Ernie

    Uncle Ernie Long timer

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    Build a box. Otherwise you have no security, no weather protection, and I have a vision of underwear and linens flying down the freeway.
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  7. johno

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    Updated version of mine. Rides a lot better with a little weight in it.:clap
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  8. Threewheelbonnie

    Threewheelbonnie Long timer

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    I think the box might work. Going to look at tool/storage boxes today.

    The platform idea BTW is fast becoming a no-go due to the price of aluminium. To put a platform on the Ural chassis would be well over £200. Angle to make a box frame would be under £20.

    Wiring is no issue in this case. The Ural mudguards fastens to the frame, as does all the wiring and the battery box is on the chassis, specifically designed to allow the body to come off with 10 bolts undone.

    Andy
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  9. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    That has to be the ugliest sidecar I have ever seen. :clap Looks like something my own brain would come up with..scary. It is probably good we are a continent apart:eek1 :eek1 :eek1 :eek1 :eek1
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  10. RedMenace

    RedMenace Adventure Sidecar

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    yeah, but it hauled ass! You could pivot it with brake and gas and the right twist grip was more like a rheostat than a throttle- choose a speed set the dial and that's how fast you go, right now!

    Probably is a good thing there is a continent between us. Come on out and play:evil
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