Playing With Your Willy All Day

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by vtwin, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    I actually have a bad second gear, per the previous owner. It has the common jumps out of 2nd gear on decel. It's why I bought the entire assembly from the guy. You can see the Borg/Warner overdrive unit hanging off the back of the transfer case and connects to the driveshaft. That required me to replace the driveshaft with a shorter one the seller even provided! Here's a write up on how the BW overdrive unit works. Would have preferred the Warn/Saturn, but at $1K, pricey, plus I still have a bad trans.

    http://www.fordification.com/tech/overdrive.htm

    Here's an old picture of the truck when I first got it 2 years ago, pretty much looks the same.

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  2. wbedient

    wbedient MoTard

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    Nice rig.

    I tired that whole, add oil and go thing with my 1966 CJ5 and it didn't go so well. I've replaced every seal under it (and it still leaks a little gear oil) and I'm working on the seals in the engine (leaks gas on occasion, valve covers leak, water pump etc.)... still love it though. Working on a project rig is a lot more fun than working on something you NEED to have running.
  3. Roadracer_Al

    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    I keep trying to explain that to my wife. She's not drinking the KoolAide :bert
  4. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Oy, while waiting for my ginormus socket to arrive to undo the rear axle nut, it's a 1 7/16", I took apart the seizing front Warn hubs. The left size did rotate with alot of coaxing. I had to get a large straight blade impact bit to remove the last screw holding the knob and got it apart today. Seems rubber o-ring bits were jamming the dial. Ok, set that one aside until I can get replacements.

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    The right side I never could turn and looked like Channel Locks were used to try to turn it. So I took it apart and found out somebody really messed up.

    Left side

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    Right side...:eek1:bluduh

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    I didn't even bother to clean it, it just wasn't worth the effort. Anybody see the problem?
  5. d mc gee

    d mc gee Been here awhile

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    Saw this today out on a ride. Looked really cool.

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  6. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Nice! Not alot of panels around these days.
  7. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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  8. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Ok, tried out my new to me axle puller since nothing else will work. I've put so much pressure on the puller, it's distorting the saucer portion. Nut is loose, brakes not hanging up, emergency brake off and it moved about 3/8" and stopped. i'm literally standing on a breaker bar turning the center bolt, not go. maybe the blue wrench on the hub? right now, I've go pressure on it and hoping in the middle of the night I'll hear a pop and it will be free.

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    Yes, the saucer is on wrong in this picture.
  9. d mc gee

    d mc gee Been here awhile

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    Did you try loosening the brake shoe adjuster?
  10. Toadady

    Toadady Push'n parts

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    smack it with a hammer, right at the hub as close to the center as you can.
  11. Roadracer_Al

    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    That's a nice looking puller.

    You say that the drum moves 3/8? Shift it back and forth, working your way around the rim -- i.e. beat on it at 12:00, push it back on, beat on it at 1:00, push it back on, beat on it at 2:00, etc, etc.

    If you still have no luck, it's possible that the drums are so worn out that they have a lip that it catching on the shoes. You'd need to back even further off the adjuster.

    On one vehicle, I drifted the wheel studs out to get a *very* stuck drum off.

    Are there any "jacking screws" or screw holes on the drum inside the wheel stud bolt circle? If not, you can add some once you get it off. They work great.
  12. cornercarver

    cornercarver Long timer

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    From the thread title, I thought this was going to be a thread about telecommuting
  13. IHWillys

    IHWillys Been here awhile

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    Ah, a Willys thread. Perhaps I should post a pic here since my user name is due to a 1951 Willys wagon body I put on a '76 Scout chassis, thus the IHWillys online handle. Yeah, it's a mutt that's arguably more Scout than Willys but it is one of the possibilities resulting from having a Willys with a crap frame(someone torch cut the drivetrain out of it) and a Scout with no body(well, it had a partial floorpan, firewall and the windshield still there). I'm no master builder but this thing was uber reliable over the years I had it, hauled tons of rock out of the mountains(over 30 trips loaded to the point hitting the rear bumpstops even with helper springs) and was a decent camper vehicle too.

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  14. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Nice, since it saves you from installing disc brakes from the Scout and then having to shim the axle for caster etc.
  15. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    the drum isn't hanging on the shoes as the drum rotates freely. I need to get ahold of an acetylene torch to heat the hub off. The axle is tapered and should have released the hub once I got it to move. Maybe the dpo smashed down the woodruff key and it's jamming on that.:dunno
  16. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    No lip on the drum? If it moved it's free, lip inside the drum from wear might be snagging the shoe keeping the drum from coming off.
  17. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    If that's what it is....cut the two "nails" holding the brake shoes in place from the back, everything should fall off.

    It has been a long time since I played with one of them pullers...40 years but.....how can I forget!:eek1
  18. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Not much of a lip as when I rotate the drum, it barely contacts the shoes. I can see a gap between the drum and the backing plate, usually there would be an overlap. So It's moved some. i'll try to take a better picture. The puller is starting to distort from all the effort, time for the blue wrench, which unfortunately is only Map gas, no oxy.
  19. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    I'll see if I can get the hold downs off and I can probably unbolt the wheel cylinders as I've got new ones anyway. Only thing left would be the lower portion of the backing plate holding the shoes on as they are fixed. Will take some better pictures today.
  20. wyowillys46

    wyowillys46 Tooteling my horn trumpet melodiously.

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    Some recent day trips.
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    Stupid camera blew the lighting.