please don't use these oil filters

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  1. anorphirith

    anorphirith Been here awhile

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    The rubber seal has a much wider surface area than the oem filters. requiring more torque to remove them. torque that the ridiculous soft metal nut at the bottom cannot handle.
    And if you don't change the oil often because you don't ride the bike much, that filter will be a real PITA to remove when it comes to it.
    It took me about 45 minutes to remove this one I finally managed to remove it by putting a rod into the mouth of a vise grip to get more leverage. The nut was 20% off the main body. I'm glad it didn't fail because this filter doesn't have the regular surrounding indents as a safeguard :twitch

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  2. BluByU

    BluByU Been here awhile

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    Please tell the steps you took when putting it on.
    Did you put a bit of oil in the seal before installation?
    How did you tighten it, or how tight did you put it on?

    In my experience, 20+ years professional wrench, it is all about how the filter went on.
    I am not a big fan of K&N filters of any kind, IMHO poor filter media.
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  3. Snks

    Snks Been here awhile

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    No indents no problem. Just use channel locks.
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  4. darklight79

    darklight79 drink it , ride it , nail it

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    Never had any issues with kn and they are shrink wrapped always lube gasket with used oil
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  5. bluestar

    bluestar the rain maker

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    Operator error. :fpalm
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  6. Carl Childers

    Carl Childers Ghost in the Machine

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    Fill the filter nearly full with clean oil and then take a swipe of that to lube the gasket, keeps the gasket from sticking and you then get the bonus of not having a dry start up with an empty filter.
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  7. gusable

    gusable Been here awhile

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    22+ years professional mechanic here ..,,I'm too cheap to pay for a K&n
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  8. gusable

    gusable Been here awhile

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    Walmart had Bosch 3330 filter for 13 bux. Autozone had same for 6.99. Guess where I went
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  9. bikeroz

    bikeroz Long timer

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    You went to the pub, didn't ya? 'Twas a trick question, right?
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  10. Stevek6thou

    Stevek6thou Adventurer

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    So you loose most of the oil when ya tip the filter to the side to screw in ??
    It's not recommended to prefill oil filters these days,

    The time from startup to the filter being filled is minimal
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  11. GS Addict

    GS Addict Pepperfool

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    You would have to be drunk to spill any on an oilhead/hexhead.
    I would never not prefill.
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  12. elwoodpone

    elwoodpone r00b

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    Been using these almost exclusively for several years, never a problem.
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  13. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

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  14. GS Addict

    GS Addict Pepperfool

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    This has the makings of a runaway oil thread :lol3
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  15. gr8grins

    gr8grins Been here awhile

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    You should know by now that factory filters filled with BMW oil won't stick in place.
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  16. No Coast Rider

    No Coast Rider Been here awhile

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    I've been using K&N oil filters for years in several bikes, mostly because that's what they sell at my local Cycle Gear. Never had any issues. I like that the nut on the bottom is drilled for safety wire, otherwise they're just like any other filter. With any filter I always lube the gasket and threads before screwing on hand right only, except on my BMW which has a specific torque setting that I use.

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  17. NZRalphy

    NZRalphy Been here awhile

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    Yup same result for me and a K&N nut at the end oil filter.

    I put oil on the seal and put it on normally ( torque wrench). Done hundreds of oil changes so know what I'm doing. Totally the same result as you trying to remove it.

    Complete PITA cheap shit


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  18. Techref

    Techref Been here awhile

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    No problems for me as well.
    I used 3 of em' already.Only Hand-tight when putting in a new one.
    I changed to Borsch because of availability. But really no issues with KNN.
    But I will take know of the post above. Thanks
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  19. baka1969

    baka1969 Veteran Bubblehead

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    I always prime the filter and put oil on the gasket first before install. Also, after the filter is seated hand tight I turn it an additional 1/4 turn. Never had an issue with removal. Regardless of the filter I used.
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  20. Steptoe

    Steptoe steptoe

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    Whenever a bike comes into the workshop and it fitted with a K&N oil filter my heart sinks...I've always had problems removing K&N filters, nut twists the case, seems the case is case made from tin the same thickness as tinned veg from the supermarket :D
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