please don't use these oil filters

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by anorphirith, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    just used them twice on my oilhead and never had a problem. but now I'm using OC25 because I'm cheap and they seem to be better anyway
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  2. AdvMoto18

    AdvMoto18 NORDO

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    Only applications (truck (Ford Super Duty deisel)/auto/moto/atv/snowmobile/Hendrick NASCAR motors/etc) I know of which are designed to be prefilled are mounted vertically to the motor.

    Many riders with high performance motors (S&S comes to mind since I had one) can use a oil filter relocation kit in oder to mount the filter vertically thus allowing pre-fill. Such kits also, allow for greater oil capacity, better cooling, and of course less mess.
    And, such kits are available for certain Boxers.

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    Most high performance engines now-a-days do not have the oil filter attached directly to the motor.

    Not a vertical oil filter, do not prefill it.
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  3. Bikerboy108

    Bikerboy108 Pat from Jersey

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    if we are lucky this can turn into an oil thread :rofl
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  4. Tor

    Tor Norwegian Viking

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    Never had an issue with K&N. Lube the gasket, hand tight install, then remove with

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  5. Carl Childers

    Carl Childers Ghost in the Machine

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    ^ My Ford pick up's straight six oil filter is that way, my wife's Subaru too, my Harley's horizontal but can be filled a quarter full. My Toyota Tacoma pick up's V6 motor has the oil filter completely upside down thwarting any attempt to put so much as a drop of oil in it when I put in a new one frustrating the hell out of me.

    I feel that at least saturating the filter element brings an oil filter online that much quicker avoiding an interruption in oil flow at start up after an oil change, then again the Toyota's got 180 K trouble free miles on it's upside down oil filter motor.
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  6. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Filling them is fine when you can, but it really doesn't matter if you have a couple of seconds with no oil pressure. Todays oils are great at leaving a protective film on the bearing surfaces that prevents cold start, and temporary no oil pressure, starts.
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  7. rider1150gsadv

    rider1150gsadv Jack of all trades, master of none...

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    Never had any issues with KNN either. Oil filter seals need to be lubed before installation regardless of brand..
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  8. Adios

    Adios 2016 R1200GS; 2006 Harley Road Glide

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    I had a similar experience. The problem is that the nut on the end of the filter is just a formed sheet metal nut. The size and the shape of the sheet metal nut is not always carefully controlled. As far as filtering performance, there are better choices than K&N anyway.
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  9. GS Addict

    GS Addict Pepperfool

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    I'd like to see you get that tool between the engine casting and the filter...........:confused


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  10. anorphirith

    anorphirith Been here awhile

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    I understand some people didn't experience problems with them but considering they're poorly designed AND there's 100 other choices instead. And they can possibly turn into a nightmare. I don't see the point of using those on the GS'es.

    btw I bought my bike with one already inside of it.
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  11. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    So you don't have a filter spanner, filter wrench, or a strap wrench. Do you happen to have a screwdriver ?

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  12. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

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    be very careful doing what is suggested above!

    one fellow did that and cracked the mounting boss.
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  13. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    It will work on a Wethead, but not a Hexhead/Camhead/Oilhead.
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  14. GS Addict

    GS Addict Pepperfool

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    Agreed
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  15. Hog1450

    Hog1450 I use the oil you hate

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    The problem with the nut, for someone not familiar with oil changes, is... it gives the idea that you can use the nut to "help" secure the filter on the bike, thus... over tightening. :gdog
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  16. Tor

    Tor Norwegian Viking

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    Fits fine on the filter (2015 R1200 GSA)
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  17. Limbow

    Limbow Been here awhile

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  18. vagueout

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    Here in australia i have used Ryco filters for decades. Just yesterday i ordered online a half doz "OSK" brand filters, anybody familiar with these? :*sip*
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  19. Scourge

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    I use a piece of tie strap around the filter, then twist it around a long nose plier. Just keep turning until it squeezes tight enough. The best part is you can carry it in your "kit" by using it to tie the kit closed.
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  20. RunninRanger

    RunninRanger Rainy day Rider

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    Over tightening a filter then subjetting it to 6000 miles of hot and cold operating cycles will make any filter hard to remove. So here's a note to tell yourself..."Hand tighten to snug and then a guarter turn!" "Don't overtighten!!!" "Brains not Braun jackass!" I tell this to myself each and every time. It's a good mantra after having removed an over tightened filter I've had to mutilate to get off.
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