please don't use these oil filters

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  1. GS Addict

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    Won't fit in the oilhead either
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  2. Gezerbike

    Gezerbike Hey Rocky...........

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    That's well and good on a filter you can get your hand on, but, as mentioned before, the Oilhead, Hexhead and Camhead filters are recessed and you can't get your hand on it to give it an additional twist.
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  3. OldMotoGuySoCal

    OldMotoGuySoCal Returning Rider

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    I have used the K&N with no problems at all. I always pre-fill the filter and lube the gasket before installing so start up has lubrication. No problems removing the K&N filter either, easy on and off for me. How tight was your filter? I would guess it was over tightened. The K&N filters are more expensive but it gives me piece of mind on a motorcycle costing over $20k
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  4. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

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    A smaller filter element than most other filters does not give me peace of mind.
    I was given some of those KnN oil filters, I wont use them though haha
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    I select and use only a few brands of oil filters;

    Mobil1, Purolator, Bosch, Mahle, Mann. Purolator is on my engine currently. Its keeping the Mobil1 15w 50 clean.
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  6. legasea

    legasea Ape on wheels

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    Been there.
    This was the first one of three I bought.
    That hole was to insert a screwdriver to remove it as a last chance after sweating and regreting. But it came out.
    The next ones were much easier just because I followed the instructions. Anyway you can't trust that nut.

    [​IMG]
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  7. bobbybob

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    With all the negative crap thats been posted about K&N oil filters--why does anyone continue to buy them??
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  8. bluestar

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    Because some know how to install one correctly and don't have to tear stuff up getting them off.
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  9. bobbybob

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    I don't buy that. Any oil filter can get torqued too much for various boneheaded reasons (DAMHIK) but why use one that "guarantees" you'll have a hell of a time removing it if its just a little too tight? Wouldn't touch them with a 10 ft pole. I think its that cute little attached nut--folks like gimmicky stuff and try it (just once) and get bitten in the ass.

    Not to mention the research done by some who posted here stating the filter media is substandard.
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  10. bluestar

    bluestar the rain maker

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    What research? I've seen plenty on the internet complaining about every brand of filter. Never seen any real evidence that any of them are substandard.

    BTW, have you ever used a K&N filter or are you just repeating crap that others have said?
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    Why, of course--I am ABSOLUTELY repeating crap that others said.
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  12. bluestar

    bluestar the rain maker

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    Feel free to use (or not use) any brand available. I have seen very few of these problems with K&N. None personally and I've used a bunch of them. I think that if there was really a problem with them, there would be a lot more reported on the net.
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  13. legasea

    legasea Ape on wheels

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    Just to had some wood to the fire;

    ..."In a case study performed by General Motors and published by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), it was determined that engine service life could be extended eight times when 5-micron filtration is implemented vs. the standard 40-micron filtration."...
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  14. bluestar

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    What kinda motorcycles are General Motors producing? :amazon
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    K&N stuff is way overrated, not to mention overpriced. They have previously had a problem with these filters leaking where the nut is welded on due to perforation of the can by the weld. To miss something like that means they don't really do any kind of design verification testing, process validation or inspection.
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  16. mouthfulloflake

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    Not much research required, the addition of the nut on the end makes the filter canister substantially shorter than most other oil filters, that cavity is typically filled with the paper filter element.

    Shorter canister = less media to filter the oil.

    here you can find examples of a couple of oil filters that were gutted in the name of science

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threa...a-r1150-caterpillar-cat-p-n-220-1523.1064657/



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  17. bluestar

    bluestar the rain maker

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    :scratch No, at least not on mine.
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    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

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    Ill post a pic when i get home.

    the KnN filter is shorter than a WIX 51348 by approx the height of the nut.
    At least on the KnN filters that I have?
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    This runaway oil thread has gained serious momentum.............:amazon
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  20. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

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    speaking of oil, I really wish I hadnt changed out to DINO 20w50 ( do not even remember what brand it was) pretty much right before the temps dropped to single digits a bit ago

    dang bike was HARD to start after sitting outside all day at work..
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