please help ease my mind or scare me to death

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by halfcabnut, May 17, 2011.

  1. halfcabnut

    halfcabnut Been here awhile

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    Okay. I didn't know about this forum. Long term rider first time Lurker to the site. I must confess when I looked at the f 800 gs I loved it. I thought it was the answer to all for me. I have been riding hare scrambles for the last 20 yrs had some youngings and just don't have time anymore. So I thought I would buy a DP that would cure the crave some off road and ride to work. But after finding this site I'm nervous that I messed up I don't care about a hard seat I'm use to ridding a husaberg. Lol but alot of folks are complaining about big issues .2500 miles in I'm loving the bike but just scared from all I've been reading. Can anybody give me some true insight or did I really buy blind and stupid.thanks Dan.S
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  2. Mr. Magoo

    Mr. Magoo TeeMarrZee

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    It's the internet ... you mostly hear of the problems. Usually, for every reported problem there are many others riding problem free. Enjoy your ride.
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  3. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    Unlax. I've got more than 31,000 un-babied miles on mine with no problems. Worry about something else. :D
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  4. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    Yeah... like WW said... nothing to worry about here. I've got 2 F800GSs in the barn (doubling my chances to have something catastrophically fail!) with a total of 70,000 miles between the two of them with not much to bitch about. Just go ride!
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  5. BMW_BIKER_KEITH

    BMW_BIKER_KEITH Been here awhile

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    Relax, and stop reading all the negativity. Most people post about negative crap, and thats just human nature.
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  6. flubbyhog

    flubbyhog Been here awhile

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    I bought my bike first, then found the fourms later and was wondering too. I've found out what to weed through and what to look at. I really don't give a shit once I get on my bike though, been real happy with it and never looked back.
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  7. JoelWisman

    JoelWisman Long timer

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    I service F800's 5 days a week. In 2 years, I have seen 2 really bad experiences, one of which is ongoing though soon to be worked out. That is out of hundreds of bikes sold, and many serviced that other dealers sold.

    Both of those unfortunate events are mentioned on this site, but there are no threads about the many customers that have had no serious un-pleasantries.

    The bad things happen to less then 1% of my customers. I wouldn't worry about it.

    The things to watch out from my experience (those that can end a motorcycle trip) are:
    1: Clogged fuel injectors. Use techron, 90% of problems solved.
    2: Stuck fuel pump. Use techron and make yourself a controller bypass kit. A video I have yet to make will show how if I ever get free time to make it.
    3: Bad rear wheel bearing. Not real common, but more common then I would like. As one should on all motorcycles, check your wheel bearings often. If something goes wrong, find a GOOD dealer that won't stop till the issue is fixed right.

    Ride the thing and enjoy it. A good dealer service department and 36k mile warranty has your back :)
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  8. beammeup

    beammeup Guaging racefully

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    Grab your big-boy pants and go!

    Too many people on these sites like to complain about their problems - misery loves company, I guess. You chose the bike and made a decision that was right for you....run with it!

    Most of the postings of problems, however, are meant as information for the rest of us, kind of a 'watch out for this' sort of message. These are helpful, but you have to consider the converse: would someone who is having no trouble at all post in to say, "Oooh, be careful. You're really going to like this bike"?

    There will always be some folks that have an axe to grind skewing the overall tone of the message board. Ride it like ya stole it!

    Happy trails.
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  9. bxr140

    bxr140 Flame Bait

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    Its a great bike.

    Its has some issues.

    Some people are afraid to admit it has any flaws, some people only talk about the flaws. Its natural to spend more time talking about the bad things (and associated resolutions) than the good things, but on either side the conversations can get blown out of proportion and taken out of context. If you're looking for honest advice, best to ignore the fringe opinions. Its not a POS and its not the greatest thing ever.

    There's no real show stoppers with the bike, and there's far more good things than bad things.
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  10. speck

    speck It's all about endorphins

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    I've been cheating death for over 50,000 (s)miles on a Harley-Davidson Sportster..... 4 transmissions, 5 sets of tires, but never layed it down or gotten into a situation that my swivel-head didn't prognosticate.

    If the motorcycling equivalent of a Rube Goldberg mouse-trap can perform so well, then the precision of a BMW will do much better.... Though, human factors.... Too much confidence can maim, if not kill.

    I have absolutely no confidence in my Sportster (4 transmissions). I try not to have so many confidences in my F800GS (though that 4,000 RPM hit just feels so good).

    Keep yer head on a SWIVEL.
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  11. Ducksbane

    Ducksbane Quaaack!!!

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    I was one of the beta testers for the F800GS and have seen quite a few recalls and part upgrades. I have never been left stranded in the middle of nowhere and all but one of the problems I have had has been resolved to my satisfaction. The one I am still not sure of is the rear wheel bearings, but BMW did a warranty repair quite a while ago and it may be fixed ... just need to get to the next rear tyre change to be really sure.

    Of the resolved problems the most annoying was the top radiator hose. I had the recall for the new hose but this didn't fix it so BMW gave me a new water pump cover and I now think the problem is fixed. The other long term issue was the leaking valve cover gasket. This was fixed with a new kit from BMW under warranty.

    So what I am saying is that early F800GS's had a few problems, but I think that nearly all of these issues have been taken care of with new parts. BMW have supplied my bike with the upgraded parts and I am happy (as long as the wheel bearing problem really is over!). If you bought a new 2010 or later model I don't think you will have much to worry about. :D

    Its a nice bike to ride and responds well to thoughtful farkling ... so I'd stop worrying and just ride it (and look after it!).

    I suppose that I should also mention that some members of this forum on other threads have a culture of BMW bashing. I don't know if they had deep childhood trauma's such as a BMW stealing their lunch and bullying them, but obviously something left deep mental scars. This manifests itself in some people taking every opportunity to criticize everything BMW has ever and will ever do. You should ignore these people once you work out who they are. (Or possibly reverse troll them if you are bored! :D).
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  12. lmclamore

    lmclamore Citation Collector

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    I also bought on a whim...then found the sites afterward. I also felt like I might have made a big mistake based on what I was reading. A year later I agree with all the inmate opinions above. There are lemons in any batch of vehicles. There are many more "anti-lemons". Use the complaints to know what to look for JIC but more importantly, what to DO if you find the occasional problem with your bike. The chances of all these problems happening to your lone ride is nil.
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  13. halfcabnut

    halfcabnut Been here awhile

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    Thanks for all the reasurance .I got to reading some of the threads and got somewhat nervous. I have always thought of BMW as a top shelf item so i really dindnt put to much thought into quality when i made my purchase ( Really didnt think it would be a issue) . Thanks again.
    Dan.S
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  14. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    There's even an "Ignore" button here just for that purpose. I finally got around to applying the Ignore hammer on one inmate here, and now I don't even see his posts unless someone quotes him. Ahhhhhhhh... Peace at last! :D
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  15. zaner32

    zaner32 In over my head

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    I got one of the early F800GSs. Had the rear and front wheel bearings go, water pump seal leak, and fuel pump quit. None of those left me stranded.

    After three summers, I think i'll buy a battery once I know I leave for a longish trip for peace of mind (I still have the OEM).

    You hear lots of complaints about the sucky suspension, abrupt throttle, bad seat, soft rims... those are all fixable, or rider adaptable. No worries, ride it, clean it (once in a while), and maintain it.

    The regular maintenance on this bike is quite easy.:clap
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  16. B-B

    B-B out of my lane

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    I'm lovin mine, but the wheel bearing thing freaks me out a bit. How to check?
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  17. The Griz

    The Griz Long timer

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    I have one of the earlier F800GS's as well. 2009 model year, September 2008 build date. I am pretty much a beta tester as well along with Ducksbane. I've had virtually every recall and service bulletin done on my bike.

    The only real trip-stopper problem I had was a catastrophic clutch failure at 800 miles on the odometer. The bike was brand new. Someone at Rotax didn't torque and loctite a clutch bolt down properly and it backed out while the engine was running at 5,000-6,000 RPM's on the freeway. Would've grenaded the engine if I hadn't heard/felt the issue and immediately killed the engine and rolled to a stop. It sucked, yes. However, BMW took care of me fully. Roadside assistance hauled my bike and I to the dealer. Dealer assessed the situation and ordered proper parts. Bike got fixed and I've been riding ever since with zero issues.

    The only other issue I've had repeatedly is a cracked cosmetic fuel tank cover. The first factory tank cracked and was replaced. Now the second one is cracked and my dealer has the new updated tank on the way from Berlin.

    Overall, from 800 miles to my current 13,081 miles the bike has been very reliable. I've been in the middle of no-man's-land and not been worried one bit. When my odometer crossed the 5,000 mile mark without any more issues I pretty much let go of worrying and realized that this bike is reliable.

    With my clutch failure, I was definitely in the 1% Joel talks about. However, since I have over 12,000 miles on the clock since then I feel that I've definitely moved into the 99% that don't have issues category.

    Ride the bike and enjoy it! These bikes are great. Very reliable, especially the 2010's and 2011's that have all the bugs worked out and recall/service bulletin work done either from the factory or at delivery to the dealer.

    Cheers.
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  18. Apostolos

    Apostolos Been here awhile

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    I've got a 2010 that I ordered right off the assembly line in April of last year. I opted to order one directly from Germany rather than buy an older one from the dealership so that I could have the most updated (at the time) parts and changes in the design that had been made.

    My F8gs is my primary means of transportation and I ride in all conditions i.e., rain, snow, cold, fog, day, and night. Thankfully, I live in a location where I can ride all year long. I also live in the mountains, so I have a perfect combination of twistsies and off-road commuting on a daily basis.

    Unlike you, I actually knew about all the earlier problems of the f800, but I still chose to purchase it. With the exception of the valve cover gasket (which was fixed under warranty), all the earlier problems have not effected my bike.

    My bike has performed marvelously in all the conditions and terrains I've taken it on. Reliability is paramount and so far I have complete confidence in the bike. I need to bring it in for the 12k mile service soon to check and see if the valve clearances are in spec, but all the other maintenance I've done myself. I changed the brake fluid last week, oil changes, tire changes, etc., are no problem.

    I think the 1 percent group resonates louder on this forum at times, but it's important to remember that the probability is greater for you to be in the 99 percent group who experience little to no problems.

    God bless,
    David
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  19. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    I carry a couple spare wheel bearings when I travel, just in case. It's not a common problem, but would be a showstopper, so why not have the spares? I also check them whenever at every tire change by sticking a finger in and feeling for play, then rotating them to check for grit, grinding, grunge or galling.

    Other than that, I'm totally confident in this bike. Nary a glitch, fun to ride and easy to maintain. You won't regret owning one.

    And if you think folks complain about this bike, try a KLR forum:poser
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  20. halfcabnut

    halfcabnut Been here awhile

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    Thanks for all the support to put my mind at ease. I was out tonight smiling ear to ear. It was cold and raining. Never seen another bike out tonight I guess all the Harley guys where home polishing there chrome lol thanks again inmates.....Dan.S
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