please show how you attache "Pelican" bags to you bike

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Ricardo Kuhn, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    The Pelican cases are so cool, the look in perfect harmony with the rest of the bike..

    another question do you have any idea how much the 3 bags and the rack weigh:huh I'm sure is not light but will be nice to know

    last Note you need to figure out a better way to mount your "Licence plate" before the tyre have lunch and dinner with it,,well Of it
    so Nate did you check your subframe or the mounting point to see if the energy of the impacts transform the shapes some how
    I also agree the design is just not there,, is like having a "safe box" with wheels,, you need to make sure "nobody" can de-atach them(impoisble i know) that presents a cool problem to resolve, how to make a bag release in case of a impact but Impossible to steal at the same time,, one thing is for sure you don't want to have the bag hanging from a "Tedder" stainless security wire when the bike is doing 60MpH..

    one more puzzle to solve..
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  2. auslander

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    Thanks... super ghetto style. Here's another shot (that's frost all over the bike, 10K feet near Redfeather, CO):

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    Pelican's website claims 10.5 lbs each for the 1550 and 6.5 lbs for the 1500 (top case). Not sure what the rack weighs, maybe another 10 lbs? It's pretty stout.


    :evil yeah, that temp tag bit it about 12 feet into the first ride. It's actually got a license plate bolted below the brake light now.


    Yes, I checked the subframe recently and so-far there's no problems. I still have the original bolts in there (keep meaning to get one of the upgrade kits) and the bike has 34K miles on it (4K from me).

    I'm not really concerned with falls to the side. I think the only problem would be with hitting something from the front that essentially stops the bike, or at least doesn't allow the case to glance off it. That could concievably shear the bolts or crack the subframe, but so-far I've not had issues. The cases are slightly curved at the edge and are somewhat "slippery" given the material, so I think in most cases they will slide off whatever you bash them into.


    Yeah. Well, it's impossible to get those cases off without opening them. The top bolts have heads on the inside and thread through to the rack. The lower bolts go in from the outside. It would probably be easiest to just take a hacksaw to the rack or unbolt the rack itself from the bike. Either of those seems like a remote possibility.

    Ideally, I would have some kind of mounting system that relies on a pin to keep things in place. That pin would actually be a padlock, so it would be fairly easy to remove, so long as you have the key. Still looking for the perfect solution :thumb

    -nate
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  3. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    Ricky,

    What is holding your Roady 2 in the Pelican case in this shot? Velcro?

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    Yup, after reading about these fellas with their "Prada" bags disintegraging in real world use I thought why bother? Then I saw a few people with their Pelicans, and my experience with Pelicans, and well, I got fixated. :nod

    "appropriate technology"? sounds like common sense winning out over high tech, cutting edge tom-foolery (servo-assisted anti-lock brakes... :huh). wiggle room and "never say die" engineering sounds like my 1965 Ford F-100 (inline 6 cylinder, 4 speed) truck. even with the clutch plates completely disintegrating and the throw-out bearing in two halves the thing still shifted and hooked up! barely noticed there was a problem. :lol3 basically everything on that truck was built to last; not like the "integrated obsolescence" that is all the rage today... :cry

    I think this is F'in-A Fantastic that you are interested in workin on the hard part, namely the mounting/attachement parts. now if only we could get Pelican interested in making the 1420s (top loaders) in the 1550 or 1600 size. :evil oh, while i am dreamin', a cube that will fit between them on the top without blocking the tops! :jump

    ps - there was a click at the power tool drag races? god, i am so oblivious to these types of things... i didn't even notice in school until the jocks started gettin weird about me hangin with the stoners in the smokin section or the nerds in the computer room or whoever i damn well felt like! :D but it didnt matter since my best bud got his pic on his older bro's driver's licence and was the school's keg supplier - i was "untouchable"!! :rofl

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    This thread is all about thinkin outside the box. :thumb

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  6. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Amen for that,,,
    just remenber "Comun sense is the least comun fo the senses"
    were I grow up is a perfect testing ground for reliable machines,,
    first the mecanics have no idea about Ingles so fuck the manuals,,then sometimes the parts are 4000 milles away in miami so what to do improvice,repair, fabricate,,whatever it takes to make it run...
    for example our old LangLuge transport was a really old Russian *GAS* jeep that drop belts all day long,,most of the time we replace them with lady nylon stocking and the thing keep running no matter what,,,oh the good old days:ricky

    I still remenber this show on cable TV about the MIG's fighting out of Cow fields when the F-16 will require a runway cleaner than a bowling ball track,,

    diferent perceptions and concepts of tecnology that at the end accomplish pretty much the same thing...
    :nono i'm not Interested on Nothing,,at least not work wise, I just like to have something to exercice the few neurons I have left before they all go away..

    Good for you,,,
    not try to hangs with Mark Pauline and the guys from the surviver research labs,,Beer will not do for them maybe rocket Fuel or Plutonium but Beer will not cut it for sure..
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  7. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    one of my fancy GPS mounts that I never got to make into production

    a "Modular" base plate like this one on the top
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    sorry I don't have any of them for sale
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    Sorry about that Ricky, didn't mean to imply you were interested in workin on the parts... :cry only meant that you were interested in slappin around some ideas (well, really slappin them hard! gotta make em work if we can!).

    we are after all discussing what type of mounts fit our "sky's the limit" demands but within the pennytech, preexisting, appropriate, and wiggley frameworks. :lol3

    so there really won't be any high tech lookin' perfectly machined magnesium frames holding carbon/kevlar sandwiched around servo-assisted retnal scanning locking mechanisms on force field shielded airtight bags... :evil for you to make for us all within the above framework :huh :D
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  9. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Sorry i have it in front of my face and I did not see it..MeBad
    I guess the KLR "Donky" legent continue I'm sure a KTM frame will be bend already and a GS will rip from the tranny if you are unlucky
    something to say about Overbuild heavy mild steel:drink

    maybe lesser quality bolts will help,,since something got to give, better to be the bolts than the structure of the case..just my opinion

    Oh yeah those frontal impacts are wrost,,starting big SUV bumper and truck to not go to far.(just feel lucky you can not lane split)
    How about ZEUS fasterners or something,,I'm sure most be a way to make it a little less complicated
    We are getting there Nate,,
    just Imagine a kriptonite lock tube as a "axle" (yeah i know they are kind of useless at the moment),you know something that contains the LOCK at the same time that fits like a pin,,just thinking out laud,,so many choices,,so many bikes.. :freaky
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  10. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    the way I see a DESIGNER is like a "Blender" that process a million diferent points of view and make them into a homogineus mass,, the more than you shake it the cleaner it gets,,Simplisity is the goal and the adrenaline rush that you get when you know that you found it, is for me at least the most powerful drug that is, your Brain, your Gut, your passion all at ones...:ricky

    another movie reference ,,
    this time a incredible russian movie call Andrey Rublev that talks about the challenges and triump on the Human spirit made by one of the best film directors of all times Andrey Tarkovsky is dense is long but after you see it you will never be the same.. :1drink
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    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    Ricky,

    I mean what holds the Roady 2 inside the Pelican case?
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  12. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    sorry Nothing it fits like a glove,,well almost,, if I remenber correctlly the box is the 1010 but I'm not sure..
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    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    K... thanks... yes I bought a black/clear one... just need to mount it to my ram mount setup... thanks for the pics and info! :thumb
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    Ricky:

    Do you think a larger pelican box would allow more heat dissapation around the unit? The 1010 you used looks perfect but I was thinking about your comment on the "green house" effect. If you were doing it again would you use the same box? I am going to do this project and am interested in your view before I order the box.
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  15. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    good question with a dificult answer.
    first the easy part,,the 1010 is a little to small in the longitudinal axis and require 90 degree connectors for the XM wires,so yes will be great to have a box that was a "Little"(1/8"longer) but at least with pelican you are not going to find it,,well is many more companies making similar boxes so maybe is a question to find out somebody else that makes a more apropiate receptacle..

    about the "green house effect" I'm not sure how to fix it,,maybe a "Humbrella" on the top,you know like a Gps hood for the screen so the sun is less prone to warm the box, even better how about a dark "face shield" screen like a combat pilot helmet that you can ajust so you can still see the screen,,I also need to tell you about this,,is not exactlly safe to keep adjusting volume and station on this things many times I found my self over correcting the bike and experience a few "oh shit moments" so be careful and more responsable than I was and don't touch the XM when you are riding,,,yeah right :eek1

    the chessy way to solve the green house effect is to keep the lid open, is not a problem at all unless you are bouncing around in the dirt.

    sorry I don't have a better way to solve this, after I suffer my silly crash i determine that was better to decrease the possible distractions and stop working on the XM department plus I'm trying to learn also how sleep better (at night) and be more relax(think less,,at least if was useful for something) so i carry less tension when I'm riding..
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    Holy movie references Batman! :huh i found that movie for a dollar and watched it: truly amazing. Not for the modern movie type at all, but I am eclectic and will sit thru almost anything (I sat thru Gone with the Wind... it sucked bad :lol3). Did you get to watch a DVD copy with the interviews and commendary? If not PM me your address and I will send you a present! :thumb
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  17. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    No Freaking way,,Finding that movie is almost impossible, much less for a dollar

    never saw the interviews but will be great to see them...I only saw it at theaters 3 times many years ago

    my adress is on my SITE thanks I be waiting at the Door:freaky

    "Gone with the wind" is nothing man, I need to show you some films that give new meaning to the words "GoD Milk"
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  18. meat popsicle

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    Got it in hand Ricky, "Criterion Collection" DVD of Andrei Tarkovsky's 1966 "Andrei Rublev"

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    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305257450/002-5925847-0101635?v=glance
    "Immediately suppressed by the Soviets in 1966, Andrei Tarkovsky's epic masterpiece is a sweeping medieval tale of Russia's greatest icon painter. Too experimental, too frightening, too violent, and too politically complicated to be released officially, Andrei Rublev has existed only in shortened, censored versions until the Criterion Collection created this complete 205-minute director's cut special edition, now available for the first time on DVD. "

    $35 bucks, BAH! :lol3 your today for the amazingly low price of just being a bang up fella! :thumb
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  19. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    be careful the "comy" police is out in patrol today we can get in a lot of trouble by taking about something as unAmerican as a Soviet film..

    Thanks that is really freaking cool,,Criterium collection and everything...:ricky

    if you find any more funky film like that please buy them for me and i give you some $ later.
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    Hi Auslander,

    Is it easy to remove the topcase, or is it fixed to the bike?

    I was thinking of using a Pelican case as topcase (to transport some photo equipment) mounted on the Touratech topcase plate, so it would be easy to remove. Does anyone have this setup?
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