Plugged Tire Still Leaking

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  1. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z Long timer

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    Hoping to get a quick response to this.. as I'm in the internet cafe and probably won't get back to the internet for a day or two.

    Right now I'm in Cuidad Valles on the last leg of a 10,000 mile ride through Mexico and some of Central America. About a month ago, I had a nail puncture my rear tire.

    I fixed it with a gummy plug and for several weeks had no problems. Then the tire started leaking air very slowly, a few pounds a day. With some saliva, I determined that the plug was leaking.

    I pulled the old plug and replaced it with a new one... Like before, this plug held solid at first, but after a few days, started leaking again. This time, much more rapidly. I have to stop to fill the air a couple times a day.

    My first thought was to pull the plug again, and replace it--this time with two gummies (will they fit?)--and then I saw an Auto Zone and stopped and bought a can of Fix-a-Flat.

    I hate Fix-a-Flat as much as the next guy, but I can't have my tire leaking air like it is right now.

    Any experience with this? Should I try the two gummies first? Should I just use the Fix-a-Flat in the morning? Any other ideas?

    Jamie
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  2. acejones

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    See if you can find some Slime. The Autozone probably has some. I rode 1500 miles through Mexico with a rear tire with Slime plugging a small leak. Its water soluble so no mess to deal with. I would replace the plug (again) using a lot of rubber cement, then I would put the slime in the tire. Sort of a belt and suspenders approach. That should get you back to the U.S. with no problem.
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  3. acejones

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    Jamie,
    I don't presume to tell people how to spend money, but the Hotel Valles is pretty comfortable. They rooms are nice and the pool is great.

    p.s. If you use the slime make sure you go around the block and then park the bike with the leak down just to make sure the slime coats it well. I would also up the tire pressure by about 5 lbs.
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  4. Jamie Z

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    Slime was the stuff I was originally looking for. They had it... but I thought it came in pressurized cans. I guess not. You ooze it into a deflated tire, then inflate it, and run the tire for a few km... at least if I read the Spanish correctly.

    The problem was that Slime is $10 a can here. The Fix-a-Flat was half that... right now I'm not sure of their return policy. I might go back and look at the Slime again. $10 is half a day's budget.

    Or... I might just go with the Fix-a-Flat.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Jamie
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  5. Monty_Burns

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    After "Sliming," don't expect to get another plug to stick if you take the one that is in there out. Plug it good, then Slime it. The Slime is like KY-Jelly for tire plugs. :evil
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  6. johnjen

    johnjen I've Been Resigned

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    I assume thst the nail was in the tread and not the sidewall, if so try this (before you slime it).
    After you put the sticky thread in leave some of it sticking out and ride it for a day or so. Then grab the end and pull/wiggle the end of the string out just a bit more. This will re-seat the string and goo in the hole and re-seal it. Then cut it off sorta short.

    JJ
    ps once you slime the tire and rim it will be a hellava mess to clean up later. If you can avoid the slime, do so.
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  7. bosco

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    I always put a little tire-patch glue on my plugs prior to inserting them. It seems to work quite well. :dunno
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  8. jkam

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    Go to a llantaria and have it fixed, they will dismount the tire and patch it from the inside. Probably cost you all of $5.
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    Jkam has the best idea.
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  10. Jamie Z

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    Hm... I gave it some thought, but wondered if they´d scratch my rim all to hell, and whether they could get the tire on and off at all. Perhaps I should have gone with this idea straight away.

    Instead, I brought the Fix-a-Flat back to Auto Zone, swapped it for a bottle of Slime, and used that this morning. So far today, the tire has held air.

    Like a couple of others have mentioned, I originally used some rubber cement on the plug.

    Darn, now I wish I would have given the llantaria idea a little more consideration.

    Thanks for all the help, guys.

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  11. acejones

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    I have replugged a tire after using Slime and it has been holding for over a year. My experience was on my BMW R1150R that picked up a nail in the rear tire on the way to Mexico. I slimed it and then rode it over a 1000 miles. after arriving home I noticed it leaking down. I then put a plug in it. That has been over a year ago and its holding air well.
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  12. Laromonster

    Laromonster Vesperado !

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    i had the same problem a few years back, a brand new rear tire on my old gold wing picked up a nail, tried plugging it myself, but kept leaking.

    Took it to a tire shop and the mechanic patched it from the inside with.. dont laugh.. a miniature butt plug
    He coated it with rubber cement and pulled it though with pliers.. lasted many thousand kilometers.
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  13. Poolside

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    <BR>You had the idea a few posts ago, use more string.

    Usually they're folded in half, you know, two strings pass through the tire. A 'loop' on the inside, and two 'ends' on the outside.

    But you can use one string to make 'thirds' so that three strings pass through. Threading a 'thirds' string into the install tool may be hard to visualize, but when the 'thirds' plug is in the tire, there is one 'loop' and and one 'end' showing on both the inside and the outside of the tire.

    And if 3 passes aren't enough, use two strings to make a 'four pass' plug.

    JJ's got a good idea too about pulling one the two strings back through the hole to wad up some string in the inside of the tire.

    And Slime is prolly not going to work if the hole is a little too much for one string.

    Good luck and safe journey.
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  14. woodgrain

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    Unless these plugs have a head on them which would push against the inside of the tire, after inserted, I would think that there would always be a good chance of leaking. I'd use the advice given , get a boot/patch put on and forget about it. You've already wasted that much on quick fixes IMHO.

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    That is how string plugs work. Enough string to deform and cover the hole though.
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    I'm a big fan of tire plugs, but if I were on some 10K mile trip I'd pay to have the tire properly patched. Even if I had to give up beer for a day or two!

    Worse case situation, as you mentioned , is that your rim gets scratched but hey, then you have a cool story to tell!

    win/win situation.

    However, the middle of Mexico is not the place to be cutting corners on tire care.
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  17. MikeO

    MikeO Part-time wage slave...

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    Sounds like the hole was slightly larger than the plug was designed to cope with. I had a similar problem after a flat in Canada - rode all the way back to Portland, OR but had to replace the plug (TyrePlugger) at least once a day. It got to be such a routine that I'd be riding off less than ten minutes after feeling the bike start to squirm. It was a reasonable procedure for a "get you home" solution - but I'd not set out on a journey with the tyre you describe until I got it professionally repaired...

    £0.02

    Mike :)
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