Plugging Tire

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by hottech, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. hottech

    hottech Been here awhile

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    I know you adventures plug your tires. Why does the bike shop refuse to plug? I have 500 miles on a new set of Metzler ZX6's and found a nail in the rear center deep groove. It was an easy fix and holds air. Am I screwed? Do I have to buy a new tire? Is the plug used only to get you to the shop to buy a new tire? Help me out everyone is telling me that I am going to kill myself riding on a plugged tire.:cry
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  2. VStromTom

    VStromTom Long timer

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    Gee, lets think, well doesn't the shop sell tires? Bingo, there you go. They feign some liability crap if they plug tires basically. As for plugging it yourself, go ahead and ride it. Use the tar plug, being careful to not twist the awl in two directions, only one. I have run several tires with the tar rope plug many miles with no trouble. Someone will surely post you shouldn't ride on a plug but that is a bunch of shit in my opinion, of course. You gotta judge that for yourself, but an awful lot of us ride with plugs and run the remaining life of the tire.
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  3. yosmitetom

    yosmitetom Banned

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    I use plugs as a temporary repair. I use a patch on the inside of the tire for a permanent repair.
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  4. armatron

    armatron Adventurer

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    I could see how on a supersport at full lean riding hard could potentially be a problem - the hole/plug could be the weak spot that starts to tear since there is so much lateral force compared to a car tire that is flat on the ground.
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  5. Commuter Boy

    Commuter Boy Long timer

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    Lots of shops can't be bothered, shop around.

    A properly installed mushroom plug inserted from the INSIDE of the tire won't fail. At least I've never heard of one failing in over 20 years of riding, and I've put thousands of miles on them.
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  6. tbirdsp

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    Sticky string, plug it and ride.
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  7. HaChayalBoded

    HaChayalBoded Brooklyn Bored

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    I had just shy of 22k miles on my front tire and about 16k on my rear. both were plugged and have been for the past 112k miles.

    The only reason I changed them was because my rear tire was slashed and my front wouldn't pass inspection. By the way after the inspection I put the old front tire back on and did a 5k mile trip without a problem.

    IE plug it (use worms) and forget about it.
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  8. BMW Kurt

    BMW Kurt Bongo's Pwner

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    What kind of tires are you using that you get 112,000 miles out of them!?!:eek1


    Also, most shops will not plug tires due to their liability (lawyers, dammit):deal


    Some independent shops will.
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  9. rob1313

    rob1313 Still learning

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    I just did 1300 kilometers on my plugged rear tire yesterday. I hope to run another 1200 with it today and throw it out when I get home. It'll be bald by then.
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  10. GreaseMonkey

    GreaseMonkey Preshrunk & Cottony

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    Plugging from a shops' viewpoint does not make sense. Why do something for $5 when you can do it for whatever they charge for a flat nowadays?

    In addition, there is the fact that a small percentage of plugs may leak. Usually you can just put a different one in and they seal OK, but a shop that would only patch tires by plugging will have some bring-backs over the course of time where a shop that only patches will hopefully not.

    I would hope this is a moot topic since I think that every bike with tubeless tires should have a couple of the string plugs carried, and the riders should know how to install them.
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  11. Jonex

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    Plug it and ride. I snuck a plug through tech inspection at RA and it held to 160 mph.
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  12. HaChayalBoded

    HaChayalBoded Brooklyn Bored

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    They are super duper top secret tires. Ok it was a typo I meant 12k miles.
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  13. Dave2

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    OK! What kind of tires are you getting 12k out of??????????????
    What bike, what tires, what tire pressure, what type riding? I'd love to get 10k out of any tire.
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  14. HaChayalBoded

    HaChayalBoded Brooklyn Bored

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    the first set of tires were
    D206F for the front
    I believe the rear was also a D206

    Then I replaced the rear with 180\70 rear from a Valkyrie\VTX (D251 possibly?)

    When it was slashed I replaced it with another Valkyrie\VTX rear

    I just spooned on a new D206 front the other week.

    I run about 42psi in the rear and 38-40 up front, lower in the twisties.

    this is on my Shadow btw, you can't get anywhere near 20k on a Sport or DS tire, you'd be lucky to even get half that.
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  15. rwamf

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    I carry one of these and I consider it good, no worries ever, I have run tires all the way down ,never had one fail.

    This is the best plug system out IMO. Simple and effective.
    [​IMG]
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  16. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    String plugs, and I have run as much as 9K miles on them.

    Oh, and I get 10-12K on my rear, and as much as 16K on my front Avon Distanzias on my R1200GS.

    Jim :brow
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  17. JBSmith

    JBSmith Ink-stained wretch

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    Doncha just love conspiracy theories? The less proof there is to back them up, the more people believe them.:lol3

    Liability is a huge problem when it comes to plugging motorcycle tires, because (a) all the tire companies recommend against it, and (b) some plugs do in fact leak. Put yourself in the position of a bike shop that plugged a tire the manufacturer said shouldn't be plugged, and on which the plug subsequently failed and put the rider on his head. You'd better have a buttload of insurance, and a lawyer with long sharp teeth and a dorsal fin.

    My local shop won't plug tires. What they tell riders is to take the tire to a car tire shop, have a patch plug installed from the inside, and bring the tire back to be mounted on the bike wheel. No liability since the customer had the questionable work done elsewhere.
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  18. Boris Badenov

    Boris Badenov #1 super-villain

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    That's not unheard of. I am consistently getting over 10K from PilotRoad... mostly slab though :huh
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  19. Dave2

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    Well, I gotta admit I put some distanzias on the KLR and have about 5K on them and the front looks brand new and the rear looks.........well....really new. So I may have a tire that will last.

    Now...to see if they work on the K1200RS!!!!!
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  20. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    They work great on my R1200GS, your lighter bike should last a LONG time. I usually get about 9-11K miles out of mine.

    JIm :brow
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