Poags Hole Hillclimb report - Dansville, NY

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  1. Beez

    Beez Given to fly

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    Last weekend I was visiting my in-laws in upstate New York (Groveland if you know where that is) and it just happened to be the same time as the 10th running of the Poags Hole Hillclimb. I'm there! :thumb

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    80 degree incline at the top I'm told.:eek1

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    It was a beautiful day but around 2 inches of rain fell the day before. The crowd was double this size when I had to leave.

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    There were trials demonstrations...

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    ...and the Ball of Death! :grim

    Next up, the hardware.
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  2. Beez

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    There was some serious machinery on hand and because there are no production hillclimbers and factories are not involved everything is handmade and unique.

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    The Suzuki squad. From left to right these bikes are powered by a TL1000, GSXR and Bandit/Katana engines.

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    They were running paddle tires with 1/2-inch bolts.

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    Not sure what this lump is but I'm pretty certain it's not a KTM.

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    A couple of Hondas from Indianapolis. A CBR900RR sleeved down to 800cc and a CBR600 sleeved down to 540cc. 800 and 540 are AMA class sizes, this was not an AMA sanctioned event which explaines some of the bigger bikes.

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    Here is one of the KTM RFS based bikes. Not sure what that belt is for though. Supercharger?

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    A closer look.
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    This next bike was one of my top two favorites of all the bikes. A twin engined Husaberg.

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    The output sprockets of both engines were connected to a jack-shaft which transferred power to the rear wheel.

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    To start it a remote starter is connected to the left motor, once it is running two guys lift the rear wheel off the ground, the rider lets the clutch out and the left motor starts the right motor. Cool!

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    A snowmobile engined hillclimber. This thing wailed like a banshee on it's run, lost momentum in the steepest part of the hill but then accelerated and made the top.
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    One of the most professional looking teams was from California. Orange County infact, my old stomping grounds.

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    They had a 2500cc Harley for the open class! :eek1

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    And this sahweeet KTM LC4 based bike. I'm partial to LC4s and this one looked like it started its life as a factory 660 Supermotard judging by the frame and carbon fiber subframe.

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    A Harley XR750 based machine.

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    The other popular tire setup was big chains like this.

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    There were quite a few Yamaha XS650 based bikes, this is one of the nicer ones.

    More to come. :D
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    Not sure what this one is, could be a KZ900 but it also looks a lot like the engine in my old '93 Kawasaki Zephyr 750 whose engine can be traced to the GPz750 and KZ650.

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    This was a real show bike powered by an old Triumph Twin.

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    They had a more moder Triumph Triple powered machine too. Note the solid disc in the front wheel. That aids the bike breaking the electronic timing beam at the bottom and top of the hill.

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    A motley crew of hillclimbers all with balls the size of :evil And the kid on the end is 15 years old.
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    Let's go Racin'!

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    Local guy from Dansville, NY.

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    A Yamaha R6 powered bike.

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    :eek1 :eek1 :eek1 :eek1 :eek1 :eek1

    That is some well-and-truly sick-assed-sheeeate. :clap :clap :clap
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    This one had the inline Twin engine from a Ninja 500.

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    The 15 year old, son of hillclimber champion Dusty Beers, had a rough 1st run.

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    The mighty LC4 hillclimber. :D

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    Almost!

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    The Triumph Triple.
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    The TL1000 powered bike.

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    Dual Husaberg. :evil

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    2500cc Harley. Let's see your Fat Boy do this.

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    That's it. This was the 1st hillclimb I'd ever been to and if you get the chance you should see one too. Pictures do not do this spectacle justice.
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    Flanny Flanny-it-up!

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    Sick man. Very cool, but truly sick just the same.:eek1
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    Awesome! Thanks for sharing...
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    great report beez. I wish I could go to one of these. Soon.
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    Holy crap! Thanks for taking all those shots. :thumb


    What kind of distance was there from the start line to where the hill pitched up? Did they have to shift on the way up, or did they just grab a gear and pin it?

    Paddles or chains seem to be better?

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    Look at the rear sprocket on the bike in the back! :eek1
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    Thanks Beez! I cross posted your EXC "supercharger" pics into thumpers to see if any of the boyz know WTF that is. :D
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    The hill was 550 vertical feet, they had about 30 feet of run before the 1st jump which was 25 feet high then it was more of a gradual climb to the 250 ft. mark. That's where it started to get really steep. Just after 300 ft. mark there was another jump that really gave guys problems if they didnt keep the bike straight or the front wheel down. Some of them would get sideways and use power to straighten out. Some of the runs they would get over vertical coming off the last jump, slam into the next face rear wheel first, the front would come down really hard and they'd just keep going. These guys are really good at what they do!

    I don't think they shift during a run in fact the dual engine 'Berg had short hand levers off the shift shaft with no way to move it with a foot.

    Couldn't tell you if chains or paddles were better.. :dunno
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    Outstanding report and excellent photo work!
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    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

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    The first person that I know of to downsize a modern motor for hill climb was Dan Watson my old compnay did the machine work for him first on a CBR900RR then on an F3 or F4. He went out and won both the 800cc and 540cc AMA Championships that year. I think he was the first to win both in a season.
    I would not be surprised if the KTM had some kind of external magneto ignition on it. We used to put them on dragbikes but electronic ignitions repalced them. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/MHusky/100_0414.jpg
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    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

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    Wait I went back and looked there are oil lines there so now I am guessing some kinf od head oiling system. Maybe they can't get enough oil to the head during the runs. It is not a supercharger since that would need to be connected to the carbs and head.
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    Love it. That was my grandpa's sport back in the 30s when he rode an Indian 4. That big old Harley looks awesome, but imagine slapping a paddle chain on the rear tire of a mostly stock Indian 4 and launching it up a hill. He spent four years on the 'circuit', riding his bike between events like most competitors and the stories he could tell - best one was the day he won and this pretty young thing asked him to the dance at the county fair, grandma spent the next three years on the back of his Indian. Wish they were still around to share your pictures with.
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    dieter von hexhead I made a doodie...

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    +1 :thumb
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