POC bicycle helmet for trials?

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Bigbird, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. Bigbird

    Bigbird "Dog Is My Co-Pilot"

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    Just bought POC helmet to use on my MTB and road bicycle. Very comfy, very light and great venting. It's also rated as the best protection out there in it's class. Back "in the day" when I tried trials in the 60's, helmets were never seen. Would it be accepable/legal to wear it in Trials? I'm brand new (well really old!) to the sport so this is a legitimate question.
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    Most clubs are adopting to protect the land owners, so it will be up to your club. Many clubs seem to insist on DOT/SNELL approved head gear. Regionals and nationals will require apporved helmets. But locally, you will need to see if they jump you or not, for it will be obvious.

    Our club is happy you have a helmet on our "main" grounds. But, at our 2 day event locations, it must be SNELL / DOT approved. But it isnt like we're inspecting, but again most of us have had the non approved and can spot them easily.

    Although, for many years, and not long ago, I rode with a walmart bought BELL bicycle full face helmet, that I cut the chin-guard out of. Then Way Before 1999, I rode with actually street/ice hockey helmets that I added a visor too. Oh, and that dates back to even the 70's as I was a kid, back when hardly anyone wore helmets but me.

    You keep an eye out for a used "SHIRO" trials helmet, they were only about $125-150 new. Yes everyone thinks they look like Gazoo's helmet from the Jetsons, but they are cheap, approved, and BTW have best ventilation I have ever found in any helmet yet, and with paint you can minimize the gazoo look. Liners come out to wash, I love them. Hehee.

    Here's my dad riding 2shock, with the Shiro Commander. go see it here, https://www.dropbox.com/s/166zii6h2duae07/20130316_111157.jpg
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    lamotovita Ageing Adventurer

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    You need to ask that question of the marshal, or sponsoring club, of the events you intend to ride. It would be OK in our club, not in some others.
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    Saw this helmet this weekend, but pic not good enough to ID brand. Has loads of "mesh" venting. Anyone know what it is??

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  5. laser17

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    That looks like an NZI.
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    yep, it is an NZI.
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    I use a Bell Super mtb enduro helmet. Basically the same as the Poc. It's comfortable and well vented. Nobody around here cares, only that I'm wearing something. I do have a Giro Feature for sale $50. Only worn once. size L. Basically the same as the Poc and Super.

    http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/men/helmets/dirt/feature.html
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  8. nwcycle

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    Just cant understand why you dont go to the dollar store, get a tupper ware copy drill a few holes in it, use a bungy cord also avail at the dollar store and strap it on
    With all the recent face plants I have seen, and some had the full face ones, i dont understand why some clubs dont have mandatory full face ones like the downhill MTB ones...
    Anyone that is reading this cant use the excuse it blocks vision,,,, bull shit
    these bikes can get you in trouble so quick, I just dont figure why take a chance at an early retirement of your teeth?
    We use the Bell Bellistic, and the 661 Downhill MTB ones, all around 75.00:wink:
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    Good point! Falling face first on some rocks could ruin my whole day! I do like the additon of a face guard and on my road bikes I always used a full face helmet. But as these helmets are MTB-types, would they be approved for use in trials?
    Bell Bellistic - Approved for Trials?
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    or 661 Downhill???
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    Jeez! You can just buy the DOT decal:eek1!
    In your last statement, "They are awesome vented, weigh as much as a potato chip and if you go with the Bell, it has the quick strap, the 661 is normal.... FYI I use the BELL"....were you referencing the Bell Bellistic?
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    I use the Bellistic..both almost the same, but the clamp for latching you dont need to take gloves off
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    "Yes everyone thinks they look like Gazoo's helmet from the Jetsons, but they are cheap, approved, and BTW have best ventilation I have ever found in any helmet yet, and with paint you can minimize the gazoo look. Liners come out to wash, I love them. Hehee. "



    Gazoo was on the Flintstones not the Jetsons
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    Touche, flintstone/jetson same guy drew them....

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    My 661 has QR buckle. It didn't say so on site or show in pic, but showed up that way (must be new model).

    More back and forth in these threads.

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=910770&page=2

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=902494&page=4

    When I was checking it out in store, the kid there said he does rocky, high-speed DH MTB races at Downieville and they (and maybe others like some of the knarly ones in Tahoe) require DOT FF now. But like has been discussed ad nauseum, that is a different kind of potential crash than section riding.
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    2 dollar helmet 2 dollar head. Full face helmets are more common now in trials, especially the young expert and pro riders. Full face has merits as well as negatives. Most clubs require a DOT or Snell approved helmet. I will stick with my open face trials helmet.

    Something I think trials helmet manufactures should consider as an option.

    All ski race helmets and have been used to protect the face from gates for many years. The face guards could easily be installed on a traditional trials helmet.[​IMG]

    Something like this :ear
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    Didn't you say that backwards? And I think it was originally (in the 70s?) $10. Most of us have learned from various helmet tests that higher cost does not always equal higher protection. And most helmets aren't even designed for the typical application/crash, that's why you are seeing MX helmets evolve to anti-concussion protection vs. some steel point drop test rating.

    Point was there are no FF trials helmets (that I could find), that's why more of us are looking to DH MTB market, not cuz we can't afford a fancy open face one.
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    My point is, trials riders desiring full face protection have many many options for a full face helmet. However the predominate issue is some sort of face protection. I just attempted to illustrate there are other options. Chris Hertritch has placed a DIY face guard on his young sons helmet. It keeps the weight down and still protects his face in the event of a header.

    Some folks wear chest protectors, elbow guards, knee pads (always for me), elbow pads, maybe even a cup. No one says you can't or even frown upon added protection. 25+ years of riding trials has resulted in a few stitches and lots of scraps. YMMV :ear
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    That's understood. What I missed was your point behind your two dollar head comment. Sounded like you were implying something about those choosing to wear DH MTB helmets that cost less than trials helmets. Maybe my mileage varied.
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    I have to kind of laugh, and be serious at the same time.

    SO just what are you buying the helmet for, the "possible" or Probable? Hell Hail could kill you, if it hits you right, you carry a helmet in case it storms, on the way to the office, or groceries store or what ever?

    But not me, I can't protect EVERY freakin "possible" scenario, I try to protect from the most likely, all the while, I hope to not tempt fate...

    My helmet has saved me about 1000 times in 40 years, from those times I didn't duck for a limb, and from when I fell walking a section, hit my ass and my head on that same angled flat rock.

    I knock on wood as I hit post, but what kind of expectations you have on some things, makes me think you have a hemet in the car, to goto work, groceries, et all, because it damn well could protect you from the "possible" although I hope is unlikely to happen to you.
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