Pondering Ural Purchase

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  1. deltamark

    deltamark Adventurer

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    Have never ridden a hack, but have been pondering a Ural purchase for several years. A recent craigslist find has me considering moving beyond the pondering stage. Found a very clean-looking 2012 Ural Patrol with about 6,100 miles. Has reverse, two-wheel drive and the seller claims that all service has been done and always starts instantly. He's asking $7,800.

    I'm aware that these bikes can be somewhat higher in their maintenance requirements and so am wondering what types of things to ask about and look for if I do move beyond the pondering stage. Would appreciate the infinite wisdom of this group.
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  2. norton(kel)

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    You should buy it NOW. If you don't like it, it should sell for close to $9k.
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  3. Prmurat

    Prmurat Long timer

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    BUY IT!!! the easiest way to learn on a sidecar.... and you can always resell it if you don't like it!!! Just check the works done on it: the more...the better!!!
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  4. Kruzof

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    You'll get more responses if you post your question on www.sovietsteeds.com/forums/

    That year may have wheels that were recalled for cracks from overtightened spoke so check between the spoke nipples.
    6100 miles is pretty low for a 2012 so no need to worry about anything being worn out.

    If I was looking at this one, I'd assume there's been a lot of parking going on so I'd want to see an engine oil analysis.
    I'd be particularly interested in fuel contamination, moisture and metals that don't belong in the oil.

    Other than that, there's not a lot that can happen that isn't apparent from a visual inspection.
    Electrical gear is mostly good stuff--unless the PO was an amateur electrician.

    Mainly, being in a road salt area, I'd be looking underneath for corrosion.
    If the rubber mats are still in the tub--not a good idea IMHO--I'd check under them as well under the monkey seat.

    A Ural is way different from your other bikes, so you will be concerned about all the mechanical noise from the engine and the clunky transmission.
    Don't be--you'll learn to love them.

    If you buy the beast you'll have 2 of the best Ural dealers fairly near you.
    http://www.heindlengineering.com/
    http://www.crawfordsales.info/ [service only]

    What could possibly go wrong?
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  5. deltamark

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    Thanks Kruzof, really great info!

    Oil analysis? Where on earth would someone go to have that done?

    I was aware of the one dealer, but had no idea there was another even closer to me in Michigan. A definite plus!

    Much appreciated!

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  6. Kruzof

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  7. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    If you enjoy slowing down, smelling the roses, and meeting people then for sure get the Ural. Maintenance is easy.

    Take your time to learn and ride it properly and it will give you a lot of enjoyment.

    Do check in over at sovietsteeds.com as they are the real experts. :thumb
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  8. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Buy it, take your time (long time) learning to ride it, and then if it is not your cup of tea then sell it.
    It might be a little scary the first time you ride it.
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  9. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad World's Foremost Authority

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    I would buy it now without hesitation, it is a great price for a low mileage Ural and like said you should be able to easily sell it for more. If it is the white one with the green stripe and racing logo on the tub, it looks to be very well kept and in awesome shape! Buy it before it goes away!

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    I wouldn't worry about oil analysis on a Ural. They are just too primitive for such high tech methodologies.
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  10. JustKip

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    I agree with what the others have said. It's enough below market value that (assuming it runs well) you can't lose money on it if you sell it in a couple months.
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    You can always part it out, if the motor is on the way out.
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  12. Kruzof

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    Ural design is exactly the reason oil analysis is a good idea.
    After all, Ural design is why the factory specifies short oil change intervals.

    It will detect things like bearing cage metal in the oil.
    Oil analysis is way cheaper [and less stressful] than Ural crankshafts.

    Disclaimer: analysis won't tell you much if the oil was just changed.
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  13. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    I kept my lip zipped as long as I can. :lol3 Someone will hate me for this.

    If someone was to purchase from me and wanted an oil analyses I would be happy for THEM to take out some oil and send it in. If the bike sold before they got their results then to bad. If they did not want to buy it under these terms then no perspiration off my posterior. While you are at it have them cut open the oil filter so you can see if there is anything in it. And drain the Engine, trans, and final drive through a cheese cloth to check them. AND does anyone REALLY know what a good report would be on a Ural? OK all of this is said in a bit of fun so it is your grain of salt on how to take it. :D

    One thing you can do is take out the transmission fill plug and check it. Mine has a magnet on it and for some reason any swaff that the tranny put out will show up on the top plug first. All of my drain plugs showed an amount of swaff all the way up until about 5000km and still show a little. With 6100km it should be fairly broken in and while it will still have some fuzz on the drain plugs it should not be huge amounts or big chunks.

    Check all the normal things you would when buying any bike and be prepared to have some great fun on the new tricycle.

    Of course you started this yesterday and we have not heard the outcome so I can only assume you have already bought the bike or have completely insane thinking about it. Be sure to order up a foil hat at your first opportunity.
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    I like that white color. However if it has been raced then all bets are off! :imaposer
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  15. Strong Bad

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    My experience with oil analysis is that it is best used to monitor how your engine is behaving over time. A single analysis establishes a baseline and gives you something to compare latter results. With all of the "Swarf" commonly seen at Ural oil changes, I bet the results from a Ural would be pretty scary as compared to a "modern" engine. But like Lomax indicates what would "normal" Ural oil analysis number look like? Please don't let this degrade into another oil related thread.

    I say buy the rig and enjoy it, or buy it & and make a profit off of it, hard to go wrong here!
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  16. Kruzof

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    Excellent points, Lomax.

    I'm a little annoyed that I didn't recommend checking drain plugs. Good call.
    Anyone in a rush to buy is not likely to wait for analysis results--even though it could take as little as a couple of days.

    I have to ask though, is it a good idea to be in a rush to buy?
    Seems to me that the smart money is watching sovietsteeds for something suitable to show up in the Black Market.

    I'm guessing that interpreting oil analysis on Urals should be similar to BMW /2s--which should be pretty well known.
    I can definitely say that I am going to do occasional analyses on my own rig.
    The results are vastly more sensitive than drain plug magnets and over time a pattern will develop.
    And if I have to sell, the new owner will get a valuable history of what's going on in the engine.
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  17. TurTal

    TurTal Been here awhile

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    Oil analysis of a Ural makes about as much sense as kissing a hooker to find out what stds you're gonna catch



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  18. BMWBUD

    BMWBUD Cancer SUX, Life is Good

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    Well delta, did u buy it or not?
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  19. deltamark

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    Spoke with him today, but I'm leaving on a mototrip tomorrow in the opposite direction. Goin' to check it out next week if it's still available.
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