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Discussion in 'Europe' started by scorch, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    Just saw this thread by chance...Hello from Viseu / Tondela. I'm an English guy living here and riding an XT660Z Tenere. mas meu português ainda é muito fraco.....
  2. gepenunes

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    more than enough! How do you like the trails there? I'm up in Porto


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  3. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    The trails and scenery are out of this world. Your country is awesome !. It's so peaceful and there's nothing better than riding along the mountain roads ( Caramulo / Estrela ) and stopping to take a coffee. I'm a big fan of Coimbra, Figueira da Foz and especially Viseu. I'm looking forward to visiting Porto more often too !

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  4. eternalQuest

    eternalQuest Intrepid explorer

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    Glad to see Margem Sul represented here. Corroios City! :super
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  5. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride it!

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    Hello all. Just seen this thread now, not sure how I have missed it before.

    Anyway, another Brit here, though I've been living here in Portugal for 20+ years so maybe I'm mostly Portuguese these days.

    I'm based down south - São Brás/Loule area and ride a KTM 1290.
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  6. Tim Graichen

    Tim Graichen Been here awhile

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    Hello All,

    Just found this thread. I live in Ohio and at 53 years old, I'm seriously starting to think about calling it quits early, and Portugal seems like a wonderful place to do it. I am a GS rider, so I need to be in a place that is accepting of large cc motorcycles. I'm hoping someone might be willing to talk with me about expat experiences. I don't think I can afford or particularly want to live in the tourist areas and am more of a mountain road guy than I am a beach person anyhow. Maybe one or two hours from the beach for my gal? Nice 2 BR with a garage, not ridiculously remote. You get the idea.....
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  7. Johann

    Johann commuterus tankslapperus

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    Expat experiences for a US citizen will be different from someone from the EU. I´ve been living near Evora for three years (from England). If you want some general info on paperwork and property etc I would be happy to help but I suspect you need more specific info as a US citizen. Your instincts are right, stay away from the Algarve and built up areas and your money goes a lot further.
  8. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    I'm an English (retired cop) living in the mountain region of PT (Caramulo = NONE tourist). I'm 54 years old and currently ride an XT660Z Tenere around the mountain fire trails and tarmac roads. We're 1 hour 15 from the west coast / beaches and the same from Spain. It's just me and my 38 year old wife in a small cottage with 2 Labradors and a Dalmation. We have a fully equipped garage for my bikers' needs too. You can do everything here from changing tyres to valve clearances. P.M. me if you think I could help you more. It would be great to meet like minded travellers.
  9. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride it!

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    Another Brit in PT here, in Algarve but in the hills back up from the coast. No tourists and no raised prices here. Been here 25 years and can help with most info but not with the paperwork for US nationals as it will be very different from the papers us Brits need and I have no idea about it. PT is excellent for bikes in every way. Feel free to PM and if I can help out I will. Good luck with the move, good choice of country!
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  10. Tim Graichen

    Tim Graichen Been here awhile

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    Thank you all! Of course one of my main reasons for think g about PT is the significantly lower cost of living as compared to the USA. All of these things I read talk about $1.5k - 1.7k per month including most everything if one chooses a location wisely and doesnt need to live extravigantly, and this is indeed my life style. I may end up with only 400 - 500k to live on plus 1.3k /month Social Security, but thats not available for another 10 years to me. I've just begun my research. Is looking at northern PT reasonable, or does the weather become too much an issue?

    My parents lived in Porto 50 years ago, and my mom remembers it as a depressing, rainy, unhappy place, contrary to what I've been reading. Would any of you be willing g to list some non tourist cities and towns for me to research? I would want reliable basic modernn amenities, heat AC, cell reception, internet, electricity etc, but don't want to be in the center of a metropolitan bees nest! If possable still within reasoable access to pu lic transport. As far inland as necessary. Thanks again for all the replies!
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  11. Tripletreat

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    Hi Tim,
    I believe that your mom's recollection of O Porto is very different from what you'll find there today. Last Spring my wife and I visited Portugal for the first time together. She was actually born in the north (Viana do Castelo) but has been overseas for decades. Long story short, we both loved our time in Portugal. We especially enjoyed O Porto! Portugal is a beautiful country, and it seems like a wonderful place for someone who loves motos, too! That would be ME! Consequently, we've been thinking about moving to Portugal ourselves. (I'm semi-retired now). Since most of my in-laws are around O Porto, that will probably be the area we'll relocate to, but there are so many appealing regions in that amazing country, you are spoiled for choices for great riding (and living).
    In the near term, I'd like to ship one of my bikes over and store it for extended visits to help us decide on where our new home should be. Here in the USA there are many storage options, but I didn't see that in Portugal last Spring. More research is in order....
    BTW, on YouTube the vids by Cager on Two Wheels are interesting and, in addition to giving reviews of various motos, show the highways and byways of Portugal. Very interesting stuff.
    Ciao,
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  12. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    Tim have a look at this website below. You can get a reasonably accurate comparison for the cost of living, house prices, crime rates between any two cities you choose.
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    I live near Viseu which is not only stunning, peaceful and realxing but a breakfast for two whilst admiring the surroundings will be 5 euros, as an example. It has a great public transport system and even a local (small) shuttle-bus airport to get to Lisbon/Porto. The airport at Porto is an hour by car from us. As mentioned, I'd scope YouTube for some answers.
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    From memory the average take-home available cash per family in PT is about 650 - 700 euros. These guys are paying a mortgage, running a car and feeding the kids etc on that. Like I say, have a nose at numbeo.com to get more of a feel for how your money will stretch, and definitely Viseu would be my 1st choice city.
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    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Portugal&city1=Bellingham,+WA&city2=Viseu
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    Forgot. ..the weather. ....in Northern (and central) Portugal it can rain hard and in 2014 it rained for 3 months in the spring pretty much every day. Generally though it rains randomly and it keeps the scenery green and lush and my veggie patch happy. On the flip side when summer starts kicking in in my region the days are 30c celcius and quite often are over 35 but a massive percentage of the year is a balmy 20 something. We deliberately chose this region because of the rains. I like a lawn not a sand pit.
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  13. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride it!

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    @Mac Ka I'm thinking to ride up your way with my g/f on my 1290 later in the summer or maybe in September. Will let you know when nearer the time if you fancy meeting up and saying hi. :)
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  14. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    Nice one !
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  15. Tripletreat

    Tripletreat Been here awhile

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    I just check the internet weather forecast for Viseu, Portugal. It says today will hit 122 f. ! Is this possible? I never expected that any part of Portugal would experience such high temperatures.
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    A mere 107f? Hummm, I reckon someplace closer to the Atlantic coast would suit us better.
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  17. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    It's a very sad fact that Portugal suffers from forest fires like places in The USA. Yesterday, 25 people were killed in such a fire whilst some were still in their cars [edit : now over 60] . A few days ago a fire tender was destroyed by the fire it was attending. In 2013 a few members of a fire crew lost their lives at huge fire on the Caramulo mountain range, where I live. But the scariest time was last year when a forest fire passed my house by 50 metres, guided by the wind. The 120 foot pine trees that surrounded our home were all alight and we had to evacuate with a go-bag containing all our 'life' documents, food, water and clothes, plus dog food. I'll never forget the sound of that fire and the falling debris that was like golf ball sized comets that you couldn't stamp out. Our home, by the Grace of God, was untouched but now we live surrounded by a rocky open landscape as all the trees have been cut down which was charred black 6 months ago but now is all green thanks to the rapid growth of ferns and other low level shrubs.
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    It might be better to live near the Atlantic after all and not like us in a Hansel and Grettel cottage in the woods, but we're still happy and smiling.
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  18. Johann

    Johann commuterus tankslapperus

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    Near Evora in summer it is regularly above 104deg F in summer, with occasional days up to 110f (like this week). I have seen the girlfriend´s car showing 123 deg F on the thermometer when parked but after a few miles that dropped to 116deg F. There is a small village called Amaraleja nearby which due to it´s location is apparently the hottest place in this area which can see temps as high as 120F in high summer. On the Algarve it is a few degrees cooler in summer and a few degrees hotter in winter, which is one of the reasons the area is so popular (and expensive). The countryside turns from a lush green to a scorched brown/tan colour and stays that way for months. One thing to consider as riding a bike in those temps can be hard work.
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  19. Dieselpwr

    Dieselpwr Been here awhile

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    Portugal is going through a hot streak right now. My parents are over there (lucky them) in the Viseu area and said they don't remember it ever being this hot. I was born there 38 years ago and lived there for the first 6 years of my life. There was never a need for air conditioning. Climate change is most definitely real. The area of Viseu is nice and not crazy expensive. Its about an hour from the beaches near Aveiro, 1.5 hours from Porto, and 3 hours from Lisbon. There are some incredible roads in the area. Serra da Estrela comes to mind, although I never had the pleasure of being there on 2 wheels, I have driven to the summit many times.

    Biggest expenses in Portugal are fuel and tolls. Everything else is pretty cheap compared to us here in the States. Many local restaurants (away from tourist areas) serve you a full home cooked meal with drink, dessert, coffee for 6 or 7 euros.
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  20. Tim Graichen

    Tim Graichen Been here awhile

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    Can somebody please give me an idea, for my retirement spreadsheet, as to the monthly or annual cost of vehicle ownership? I am interested in the tax, registration, inspection, insurance cost of a motorcycle like a R1200 GS and a small car such as a corolla or similar. Regarding the tolls, are they a mandatory part of any travel, or can these roads be easily navigated around like in the USA? I guess I want to know if tolls are significant enough to warrant being added to my spreadsheet.