Powder Coating Cast Boolits!

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  1. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    I am trying something a little different with my cast bullets. Powder Coating!

    I've been making and shooting cast bullets for some time. The only real problem I've had with them is that they are leading the barrels in my 9mm's. They also smoke much more than jacketed or plated bullets, which isn't very good for shooting at the indoor range.

    So, yesturday I got a cheap powder coat setup at Harbor Freight ($58.00) and started to powder coat a few.

    The powder coating works as the lube, so no more messy/smoky lubes are needed. The bullets actually shoot faster than either jacketed or lubed bullets with the same powder weights, so they are actually more slippery.

    There is NO leading and there is very little smoke, just about how jacketed shoot. People have also reported better groups than lubed bullets, so there is a potential for better accuracy.

    I've read that some people are pushing these bullets up to 2900 fps. with a plain base, no checks or anything.

    Here's a large thread over at Cast Boolits all about it: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?171403-Powder-Coating-Boolits

    And here are a few I powder coated yesturday

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    DSC01243 by Colorado CJ, on Flickr
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  2. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

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    If there is any extra wear on the rifleling?
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  3. NICO

    NICO Long timer

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    What sort of residual are you going to leave in the barrel from the powder coat? You might be opening a can of worms for yourself. See if a buddy wants to shoot a bunch through his gun first. :evil
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  4. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    No, the coating is slicker than either lubed lead or copper jackets, so there is actually LESS wear.

    You can also use softer lead with the powder coat as the bullet will not lead the barrel, so there is less wear than using hard cast bullets.
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  5. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    I loaded up a few hundred 9mm powder coated bullets. I used the Lee 358 105 SWC mold and 4 gr of W231.

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    I shot a little over 100 powder coated bullets through the M&P at the range today. Accuracy was great and there was VERY LITTLE SMOKE. About as much smoke as when I shoot jacketed bullets.

    I took the barrel out and there was only really powder residue in the barrel, no leading at all.

    Here is the barrel after shooting. Sorry for the bad photo, it's hard to get the depth of field with this type of shot.

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    It took only one pass with a bore snake and the barrel is perfectly clean and shiny. Here is the bore after 1 pass of the bore snake.

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    I'll have to do more testing, but so far powder coating seems like it is going to work GREAT for lead bullets. No more smelly, messy lubes and no more smoke. Most importantly NO MORE LEADED BARRELS!! :D

    Can't wait to load up some 155gr 300 BLK rounds to test out!
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  6. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    Cool! :thumb
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  7. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    No residue at all! Just the normal powder left over. As you can see in the photos in my last post, the barrel was spotless after only one pass of a bore snake.

    Can't beat that for an easy clean. It is even easier than cleaning after shooting copper jacketed bullets. No copper fouling to deal with.
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    Jonnylotto All out of care

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    Do you have any spent rounds to show us?
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    Tripl Nikl Long timer

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    So... Isn't this basically homebrewed NyClads? :lurk
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    thanks for the heads up!
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  11. pilot

    pilot Slacker Moderator Super Moderator

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    That's a very interesting idea. :thumb
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  12. JamesG

    JamesG Rabid Poster

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    Did you get the barrel hot during your test shoot? What about the neck between the chamber and barrel? Was there any buildup of material there?
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  13. NICO

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    Looks cool so far. Interested in the response to JamesG's questions.

    A bit of advice: Be careful about using one of those to shoot someone. They might well get an infection from that powder coating stuff and that might well cause them to suffer harm, or even death. :eek1
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  14. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    I was shooting at an indoor range, so no, I don't have any recovered rounds.

    Here is a photo from the Cast Boolits website though with some recovered rounds. You can see that the coating in the rifling is still intact.

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    And here are a couple of powder coated bullets smushed in a press. As you can see, the coating is pretty flexible and REALLY adheres to the lead.

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  15. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    Nah, I think Nyclad was something else, coated Teflon I believe.
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  16. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    Yeah, it got pretty hot. I was shooting these pretty fast.

    There was no buildup anywhere, the photos shown above were of my barrel right after I shot about 110 rounds through it in a matter of 15 minutes or so.

    Basically just powder residue. Clean as a whistle with just one pass of a bore snake. It was easier than cleaning the barrel even when shooting jacketed ammo.
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  17. Colorado CJ

    Colorado CJ Been here awhile

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    Yeah, I use Hornady XTP's for any bad guy work :deal
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    Those had Nylon jackets.
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    A good idea actually.

    I see a marketing oportunity, various colors for various holidays.
    Valentine's Day-pink, red
    Christmas- red, green
    St. Patrick's Day- Kelly green
    4th of July-red, white, blue
    etc., etc.
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  20. Buccleuch

    Buccleuch Resistance is futile.

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    A good idea? Maybe. Proceed with caution.

    It doesn't take a whole lot of change to cause significant changes in internal ballistics and chamber pressures. You should be careful using these with anything approaching a max load. Have these been tested in a test barrel or proof barrel?

    W.A.
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