Pre '96 Suzuki DR650S

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  1. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    Would you say your DR turns into corners naturally and smoothly?I don't know if the issue with mine is due to the large front tire or the back one,I actually suspect the front the most,I was just trying to decide if I should order one tire or two.
    I've owned and ridden many bikes over the years(been riding for 40 years) and the only bikes that turned in like the big DR always corrected with a change of tires,but it seems like I've always changed them both due to some other reason and been surprised when it corrected the wonky handling that I thought was natural for the model I was riding.
    The knobbys that I took off were bargain basement Cheng Shin Metzeler copy C755's,actually cheap enough to just replace every 2000 miles or so and not be too upset about it($25 front and $38 rear)I may also try the C858's they're about as cheap and are are actual dualsport tires(I'll pump 'em up hard to resist chunking)


    ...and speaking of cruiser tires,when My Bonne Black is due for new shoes I'm going with the Kenda K761 Dual Sport tires,I never crowd the limits of traction on the street and I think the K761 tread will look freakin' retro as hell on the Bonneville,plus it'll give me some extra security if I stray off of paved roads


    Ballistic Ken,I don't believe my Bloomfield is quite as scenic as yours...
  2. knybanjo

    knybanjo kinda slow

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    I run the 270 in the 5.10...3.25 sizes without any trouble.
  3. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    Hmmm,you know,it's nothing I can't adjust too,rode it with the large Kenda 270's last year,just noticed the change in handling when I swapped back on the 50/50 tires from this winter's knobbys.
  4. inire

    inire Browncoat symp

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    So many variables here! Tire pressure, fork height....(asplode)

    In the dark ages I used to run small street bikes with Way Too Big Tires in the futile search for better traction and better profiles. Once upon a time I had a similar situation to what you're describing; I could definitely tell that I had a bigger tire than required up front because of the way the bike stood-up-then-dropped into corners. Didn't like it. Went back to a less sexy but more correctly sized front.

    YMMV, but for the DRs/ enduros in general my pref is still in the 2.75/300 range for the front and no bigger than 5.10 on the rear. Tire selection has been good. Handling has been neutral.

    As for the cruiser skin up front, no complaints: roads out here are hardpacked enough with a good consistentcy of embedded grit that I've only been scared a coupla times. That said, ravenranger hasn't introed me to her Deep Sand Of Doom section yet, so stay tuned.:lurk
  5. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    Ordered some Cheng Shin c858's 3.00 and 4.60 only fifty bucks for the pair,what the hell,I'll give 'em a go.We'll see just what works for me:wink:
  6. knybanjo

    knybanjo kinda slow

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    I've heard good things about those...but they never seem to be in stock when it comes time for me to order tires.
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    zokalr13 Been here awhile

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    Gonna put in a dyno jet kit on my 93 DR650s: any tips or set-up that you can help me out on as far as what to do ?? im running a stock pipe and filter but i will do anything extra for max power and stuff....also,what rear shock can be transplanted that will aid the bike and forks as well....please reply,because ive noticed that these bikes get ignored by everyone in the motorcycle interweb universe.. :cry
  8. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    I was ordering a gasket so I can adjust my balance shaft chain(got a case of the "caginga-gingas"at idle) and saw them on BikeBandit(unfortunate name for a company I think) for dirt cheap,don't even care how quick they get here but it shows them being shipped already,it's my gasket and horn that are on backorder.They have a paddle type tread that won't likely last long on a 650 but may provide decent off-road traction.At least d/s tires are a breeze to change so I can do it often if the tires cheap.
  9. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    I gots a Ford Explorer front shock modified to fit the back of my DR:shogit "aided" the ride compared to the completely blown stocker and only cost about 25 bucks plus welding wire...


    Why not investigate putting a FCR carb onto the DR? That's what the late model guys do who want snappier performance,I don't think jacking with the stock carb will get you much.
  10. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    Damn,tires are already here!
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    about 36 hrs after I ordered them!

    I'll spoon 'em on saturday evening or sunday morning,gotta triumph club ride to do tomorrow.
  11. knybanjo

    knybanjo kinda slow

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    Yeah Bike Bandit has always gotten tires to me in 2 days or less....other parts take up to 2 weeks though.

    btw....you don't need a gasket for those side covers. Use "high torque rtv" (gray) just run a thin bead and tighten fully with no waiting or re-tightening....

    I've never had the stuff leak and it comes apart easy too when you go back in .
  12. k12lts

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    I agree with no new gasket necessary for the side cover. I took mine off twice last year to adjust the chain and even with the original gasket torn a little, some RT sealed it fine.

    Save the new gasket when it finally gets here for a spare.

    I replaced the tires on my 91 when I got it last year with the Kenda 270s. The front was easy to change myself, but I couldn't break the bead on the rear even with a vise. I took it to a buddy with a tire changer and even he had trouble but got it done. Good luck on yours.
  13. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    I know that I don't need to use a gasket,I just prefer to,she's an old girl and I like to keep her as well treated as possible since she's had a hard life at the hands of questionable talent(I had to use epoxy to repair prymarks and gouges on the clutch cover gasket surfaces,that's one reason why I got her so cheap,needed gentile hands to get her reliable)

    One place I'd always make sure to use a gasket is the rocker cover,small oil passages to the rocker arms don't like to be plugged with goo plus the camshaft bearing journals are machined to specific clearances with a gasket.

    Da Bandit sent me an email that my gasket shipped today,won't be too long a wait,she's not too noisy to ride anyway,just tryin' to nip it in the bud.

    The crappy thing is I've developed an affection for the early DR's,when you look at the 96 and up models(Fantastic bikes,don't get me wrong) I see that they need about $1000 spent just to add what the 91 came with stock(big tank,skid plate,big rack,wide saddle,ect.) So I gotta take good care of the one I have(Seems like the early DR650 are still bringing good money on Craigslist so I don't see myself buying up a bunch of derelicts for spares.
  14. knybanjo

    knybanjo kinda slow

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    :lol3

    I prefer to treat mine like a rented mule! :pierce
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    ballistic_ken Helmet hair victim.

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    Any links to more info on the FCR carb mod?:evil
  16. dmay

    dmay Been here awhile

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    Looks like you push-button start guys have alot going on behind the cylinder on your bikes,I'd try to find someone who's got their carb off of their 450 mxer and take some measurements before spewing out the dosh for one.
    Then read through the post96 DR thread for info.
    MX_Rob FCR 96+http://home.comcast.net/~rshafer9/FCR_Install.htm

    Read the info about the KTM 450/525 carbs,may be the hot setup.

    here's a pic of one on a 95...
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  17. dmay

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    Swapped on the C858 Cheng Shin 3.00 front,Restored my steering to nimble status:clap

    The big back tire can stay 'till it wears out.
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    ballistic_ken Helmet hair victim.

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  19. knybanjo

    knybanjo kinda slow

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    The 110 is skinnier.

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    Here's a chart that converts it for you.
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  20. heatmaker

    heatmaker WWC FOUNDING MEMBER

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    Those Cheng Shin tires look pretty good. And a set for under 100 bucks!!! I thought the Kendas were a good deal!!!

    Im cheaper than any KLR rider out there!!:lol3:lol3