Pre '96 Suzuki DR650S

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by DRS Canada, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. toolfan

    toolfan Broken Hearted

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    It's a different bike for sure, but there is lot's of good stuff in the DR thread, some of which pertains to the older bikes.
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  2. SteveBroskey

    SteveBroskey Teach me this knowledge

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    Hiya Nash :wave

    I'm in a similar ship - just got a '91 DR650. Trying the search queries and threads on here, but still having a bear of a time getting the info I need. A Pre-96 DR650 thread would be money, IMHO.

    Start one up, PM me the link, maybe some others will hop on the virtual trail you blaze.

    fyi, here's the useful thing I found so far: manual (bottom left: r-click, save as) = http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4327638#post4327638
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  3. toolfan

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    There was a pre-'96 thread started a couple months ago. Not enough of them to keep it at the top.

    Maybe search for DR650S. I'll see if I can find it an bump it.

    (I've got a '95)
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  4. toolfan

    toolfan Broken Hearted

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    Someone was looking for this thread...

    Plus, I just got back from a 3200 mile tour from Portland, OR to Ouray, CO and back again on my '95 DR650S,

    AND got my big Acerbis tank installed (it came in a day late for the trip!).

    (I'll post pics tonight!)
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  5. SteveBroskey

    SteveBroskey Teach me this knowledge

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    AkBrian, thanks for the bit about the kicking - PM coming, I just bought a '91.... problems starting so I got her cheap.
    If there were to be a Pre-96 DR650 thread, would you contribute your wisdom?
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    SteveBroskey Teach me this knowledge

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    Toad man + any other older DR650 owners:

    words of advice for a new owner of a '91?
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    Thanks toolfan....
    and I'm an idiot - that manual is for the DR650SE's
    (not the 650RS) :baldy
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  8. SteveBroskey

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    Back to read'n then (though I'll still be looking for that pre-96 thread if you can find it. Looked myself, I got nothin.)
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  9. toolfan

    toolfan Broken Hearted

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    I'm not positive, but I think the RS and the S are slightly different.
    Same motor, but the RS has more body work, IIRC.

    I only know what I know from reading a bunch of suzukicycles.org, or whatever that website is were a guy has gone through and cataloged every suzuki mc (ever?).

    I bumped the DR650S thread (something like "Any DR650S owners?") Not a ton of info, but it's got some, and it'll help you find who has one and who knows something.
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  10. nashopolis

    nashopolis Been here awhile

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    good luck on your new (old) bike
    I just got back from gathering bits for my new 93
    (filters, plugs and such)

    mine needs a few kicks to get going

    also my lights only come on after I start the bike...
    anyone knw if this is normal? or what should I look for if isn't?

    I just put a new battery on it and the previous owner replaced the rectifier and rewound the stator

    I am just about to take the side covers... off check the balancer chain replace gaskets
    bleed the brakes...see where that gets me

    I can't say I can offer much info but I guess we can learn together
    keep me posted on your progress
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  11. nashopolis

    nashopolis Been here awhile

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    cool... glad to hear I have some company

    I have checked around some on ADV
    some info but not a ton

    I will compile what I have found thus far and post it soon (i am moving my shop this/next week)

    thanks to all and keep posting!

    about to tackle my "new bike once over" - check / change fluids etc.

    .

    this is in the other thread I started but will repost it here too
    *********
    my lights only come on after I start the bike...
    anyone knw if this is normal? or what should I look for if isn't?

    I just put a new battery on it and the previous owner replaced the rectifier and rewound the stator

    *******
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  12. SteveBroskey

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    THANK YOU TOOLFAN!
    Mods, any chance of merging and renaming threads for clarity?

    /me PM's mods

    </pm's>
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    SteveBroskey Teach me this knowledge

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    Indeed we can, and indeed we shall.
    PM'd the mods about merging/retitling the DR650S (pre-96) threads we've been posting in. If nothing else we can gather here.
    Thank you toolfan for bumping this.

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  14. nashopolis

    nashopolis Been here awhile

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    that was fast!:clap
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    nashopolis Been here awhile

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    what's up with the suzuki pocket tester?
    so I am no electrical genius by any means but I am confused

    the manual for my dr650 1993
    says over and over to check the electrical system with a suzuki pocket tester
    because of the use of scr and diodes that the resistance readings from another ohmmeter will not coincide with the measured readings given as manual specs

    anybody know what this means?

    is a reading at say measured at 1k ohm not the same on all meters? or at 20k?
    maybe I am showing my ignorance
    but
    do I need to find a suzuki pocket tester to correctly diagnose my electrical system?
    or will any old VOM meter be okay?
    :norton
    thanks

    Bryce
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    +1 :thumb ARCH is the man.
    haven't gotten as far as the pocket tester yet in my manual. Still preping for a slab trip this weekend.

    Rochester, NY -> Framingham, MA Feel free to suggest good sections road - else it'll be all I-90 the whole way.
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    knybanjo kinda slow

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    I have a '93 and parts have not yet been a problem to find. If it's not convenient to stop by a dealership bikebandit.com has full schematic parts lists on their web site for OEM stuff...
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  18. toolfan

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    Hey, cool, thanks for the combo Mods and SteveB.

    SteveB - if you want to avoid the freeway, use google maps to get directions and click the box that says "avoid freeways" or something like that, it worked pretty well for me on my last trip. It's also nice because I noticed that my bike get's much better gas mileage cruising at less than 5k rpms than the 5k+ required by freeway travel.


    nashopolis - I have no idea what the suzuki pocket tester does, but are you just trying to figure out the lights/non-running thing? My bike is e-start only, so it's probably wired a little different... but - does your battery have juice when it's off? If it does, then the headlight is probably wired straight to the stator and is supposed to be off with the engine. You could probably figure out of that was right or wrong just by studying the wiring diagram.

    I've been getting OEM parts from my local dealer no problem. Everything has to be ordered, but I usually get it within a week or so. The acerbis tank took like 3.5 weeks or so.
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    SteveBroskey Teach me this knowledge

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    So true on the mpg, and yes - drag 'n drop the blue line is nice; it just adds 1hr+ to the drive, and I'm riding with another. We'll be on a time budget to get there when the dancing starts (yes, I'm terpsichorean). Thanks for the suggestions though!
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  20. nashopolis

    nashopolis Been here awhile

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    thanks for the tips

    so the word on the internet is that a regular vom meter should suffice (seemed likely**but you never know)

    yep....I am a complete novice when it comes to the electrical system
    I understand the "ideas" of how it works but have very little practical knowledge
    but I am learning!

    I have been studying**the wiring diagram lately however obviously i need some more education and or eyeballing of the wiring on bike to understand it properly (or a teacher!)

    I was testing the battery last night to see if it was charging and got a low reading
    I started testing the charging system per the manual to see if I could see what was amiss

    got some non spec readings on the aftermarket rectifier which also has a slightly different wiring layout than the stock one in the manual ... thus I came to a place where I had too many variables to easily teach myself how it all worked.**VOM meter, charging system, aftermarket parts, basic troubleshooting....

    it seems likely that the bike must be wired through the stator or something of the sort because I have zero powered accessories until the bike is running.**

    I was digging around and found this great link to a decision tree for the charging system
    (thanks Hondo)*
    http://www.electrosport.com/Images/fault_finding.pdf
    *I bet I can figure it out with this and a little time.

    I really just need to sit down and weed through it
    take the tank off and spread everything out where i can see it

    right now I am trying amass all the pieces before I tear down the bike so I can do all the maintenance at once while the oil is out and the tank is empty.

    but I guess you really don't need an empty tank on these bikes right
    my ural has a balance tube on the tank which means drain the tank to take it off
    not so with the DR.
    :)


    lots to learn but glad to do it
    perhaps my DR and I will be quite intimate by the time I am through learning!?


    thanks to all for the help thus far
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