Pre-Event/lead up Dakar 2014 thread (moto & quad)!!!!

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  1. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5ool

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    This is what...? A 4WD offroad racing spec burger joint/diner...? :clap

    Finally... FIA approved fast food...! :lol3

    Reminds me of a former French Dakarcompetitor Georges Groine... he also was responsible for some years for the catering on a number of the original "Dakar" (Africa). He had some very well set up T4 trucks for the same purpose. :1drink
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    In 2014, the Dakar will discover a new country : BOLIVIA!


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    Dread Pendragon throttle to the donk

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    Great picture!
  5. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    So which bike will be the fastest, top end speed, across the salt flats....my money is on the Hondas.

    Looks like there might be a minute to gain or lose by going flat out across one of those flats...enough time to make a difference maybe
  6. too old

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    For me, still The KTM or even the Speedbrain, but they shouldn't influence too much?

    Aren't there report that the salt flats are wet at the time of the Dakar?
  7. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5ool

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    :huh Oh soooo little to gain... but so MUCH to loose. :deal

    :y0!

    :nod One of the local inmates reported earlier that they could be damp at that time... yes.

    But even if they are dry... (to reply to top speed ted's comment :lol3)

    Full noise, for 10 to 15 minutes, at altitude on 450 mx based single cylinder engines = someone will go :kboom for certain... :eek1
  8. pedrodepacas

    pedrodepacas Adventurer

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    I am an ADV rider competing this year and am looking for support.

    My name is Peter Hardy and I will be racing a KTM XCW built by Scott Spears at Freedom Rally, who will also be servicing the bike during the rally. More can be found at freedomrallyracing.com

    My background is racing Baja. I attended Jimmy Lewis' navigation clinic and raced the Tuareg Rally this spring in preparation for Dakar. My job as a seasonal wildland firefighter prevents me from riding in the summer, but does provide excellent cardio and strength training. Lately I have been riding as much as possible.

    I am not the fastest or wealthiest racer out there, but I do have the determination to race the Dakar Rally.

    Please consider supporting this effort by PayPal. Any amount is appreciated. For $50 or more, I will send a shirt, two coozies and three stickers anywhere in the US. Please include shirt size and address.

    Thank you!

    Peter 'Pedro' Hardy
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    It will be in Bolivia where motorbikes and quad competitors will face the second marathon stage of the Dakar 2014, crossing the Sico Pass. The first will be between San Rafael and San Juan, the third stage of the competition.

    David Castera, Dakar sporting director, anticipated his idea that the competitors pass through the Salar, Uyuni although "we made ​​two routes, one with and one without it, with more water."

    "We will wait for two days before to decide what we will choose. It can be spectacular Salar with 50 or 100 bikes, hopefully it does not rain "


    http://www.diariodecuyo.com.ar/home/new_noticia.php?noticia_id=600775
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    And therein lieth the rub! :deal

    Could be like this:

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    Anyway it will be a pity if they can't do it. It will be magnificent. Cant imagine what the salt will do to them bikes though...:huh
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    ecarnell Been here awhile

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    Peter - we need to hear more about guys like you!!!!!!!

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=885393

    I'm in Canada - so please PM details/$'s required to ship to Canda please.

    Best of luck - given you've ironmanned the 1,000 - I'm hoping for a great result/finish for you.

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    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    in the recent OiLibya Rallye du Maroc on the 3rd day the course was a dead straight line over a hardpan lake for 30km !!!!!

    1. don't recall any bikes going bang
    2. how anyone can say Safari is just all about speed and then deny the amount of FAST sections on that rally is beyond me !!!! :huh
  13. troy safari carpente

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    Come on Gaz...:wave we're discussing formula 450' rallye bikes here... not pensioner offroad golf-carts, that's the next forum across - right alongside the viagra vendors stand. :wink::lol3

    Two questions for you... what altitude was the hardpan lake in Maroc at...? :ear

    And secondly... 30 km's eh? Well, the horizon on the photo of the Laguna Salar de Uyuni posted previous, is at least twice that far away.

    I agree that it's a spectacular vista for the rallye to traverse, and will make for some great PR shots, but I also concur - that the "top speed" thing is pretty pointless in an off road rally context. Good for bragging rights mebbe, little else.

    So my point being, holding a 450cc engine to the throttle stops for prolonged periods, was never in the design breif for these type of engines. (my sake of argument guesstimate of 10 - 15 minutes was fairly conservative - giving the immense size of the salar - it could well be double that time or even more?).

    I'll wager that anyone who holds it "pegged" across there in order to garner a few minutes, runs a huge risk that their motor goes.... reeeeeercht pfffft! :lol3
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    Local KTM dealer (who only sells road bikes) is saying that he received a spec sheet witch says the new rally bike makes 115-120hp. Is that realistic? Seems a bit high to me.


    It will be a brave rider who decides to make up time on those plains by keeping it wide open (180+ km/h?).
    Big risk, moderate payoff.
    My money is on Barreda. :wink:
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    That's @ double the figures for a 450 SXF or any contemporary mx spec 450cc engine on the market today... so yeah... I'd say that's a bit on the high side. :rofl

    It is on par for what a modern 990 - 1190 LC8 generates in top trim... so you could perhaps say he's half right? :wink:

    Maybe he mixed his spec sheets upt with the new 1190 Adventure...? :ear or perhaps he thinks that is the new rally bike? :lol3

    ... you did say he only sells road bikes, after all. :evil
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    I'll wager that anyone who holds it "pegged" across there in order to garner a few minutes, runs a huge risk that their motor goes.... reeeeeercht pfffft! :lol3[/QUOTE]




    If it's the first day of the second marathon stage then IMHO, wet or dry and with still the best part of a week to go I suspect the top guys will be doing little more than cruising?

    It's after the rest day, whether there have been engine swoops by then depends on tactics and how they are running, but I don't see too many risking the event for a minute or so that could be gained with an extra 30 or so Kmph - best guess for me, cruising at say 140 ? Who wants to risk his Dakar for a minute or two at this stage ? :freaky
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    Hadn't seen this in here, entertainment while we wait.

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    :lol3 you didn't go as far back as page 4 then :D, but if you go back to page 3 , some nice pics - page 3 :lol3:lol3 quite apt for the Brits :thumb
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    A minute or two can easily be the difference between winning and not winning...situation at the time and day between top ranks guys may dictate whether or not those list seconds/minute mean a difference...



    If it's the first day of the second marathon stage then IMHO, wet or dry and with still the best part of a week to go I suspect the top guys will be doing little more than cruising?

    It's after the rest day, whether there have been engine swoops by then depends on tactics and how they are running, but I don't see too many risking the event for a minute or so that could be gained with an extra 30 or so Kmph - best guess for me, cruising at say 140 ? Who wants to risk his Dakar for a minute or two at this stage ? :freaky[/QUOTE]
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    Ha ha Ted - it's going to be a long month, just as well we have Christmas and New Year to speeds thing up a little.:D

    The discussion on the evening of the 12th could be fun :1drink
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