Preference: Original or Restored?

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by ricochetrider, Dec 13, 2012.

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Crusty old Steed or Shiny Repop Resto?

  1. Crusty Patinaed Rider?

  2. Shiny Repop Resto?

  3. I'm gonna ride the fuck out of it!

  4. I'm gonna trailer it out to show it off. Maybe I'll win a trophy.

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  1. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    How does this hit you ?

    To me it's about the worst case scenario , faux patina. I saw this and it just struck me as wrong , I mean if you have real aged look to preserve that's one thing . This on the other hand seems to be bowing to fashion as the times dictate.And they did this to a true Icon , a Merkel !
    At least they left the motor mostly alone.
    Can't you hear the owner telling his painter, "Make it look old. Like it was just pulled out of a barn." Fail
    In the seventies you'd see old bikes far overly restored to the point their history was polished off, then chromed over.
    A well restored bike is cleaned up and painted to the standard of the day it was produced.
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  2. Sox Fan

    Sox Fan SoxFan

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  3. Merfman

    Merfman Trustin' my cape...

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    Is there a market for a bike that's been repaired to a level that it appears as a well kept survivor?
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  4. darmst6829

    darmst6829 Been here awhile

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  5. hopskipjump

    hopskipjump Adventurer

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    Give an example!
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  6. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    I love the look of a well used but well cared for machine.
    Be it a camera, car or motorcycle.
    Showing brass as we used to say.

    I like period race bikes in as raced condition.

    I dislike 11point restorations. Where the finish is brough superior on a triumph cub.
    And thank dog the fauxtina trend has mostly passed.

    But thats the great thing about this deal we all can like and have different.
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  7. Merfman

    Merfman Trustin' my cape...

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    It's currently on my bench. ;) I'll post up when I have it done. Build thread is here:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=845041

    My goal is simply to make the bike roadworthy/reliable and fix any obvious issues. Restoration is not the goal.
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  8. ricochetrider

    ricochetrider a certain something

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    Of course this is all personal and subjective... It IS interesting to get everyone's take on full resto, running mods, patina, etc.- and I completely enjoy reading everyone's posts here.

    My main "beef" (I guess you may call it) with restorations is parts origins. NEW parts origins, specifically. Having said that, this point would really be my sole argument against spending mad amounts of $$$ on a restored bike. Like many other things, I can only imagine the Chinese are exporting Brit Bike bits, and I know for sure the Indian after market is strong, as I know at least one Englishman who has bought from an Indian parts supplier. This makes sense, considering the English occupation/colonization etc. of India.

    Yet, I wonder at this point in time,
    A: how much trouble it would be,
    and
    B: what would it cost
    to do an all USA, (and/or) Canadian, (and/or) British parts ONLY restoration?

    Is such a thing even possible? Where are the highest quality repop parts coming from?
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  9. Max Headroom

    Max Headroom lost in the '70s

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    Over the years I've seen crap components manufactured in every part of the world, and likewise I've seen high quality components also come from every part of the world.

    Personally, I'm less concerned with the country of origin, and more concerned with the quality of the vendor's reputation. A reputable dealer or parts supplier will endeavor to supply good quality parts, and will stand behind them if they happen to fail prematurely.

    My $0.02

    YMMV etc
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  10. ricochetrider

    ricochetrider a certain something

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    Yeah, I'm with you there... no matter where it comes from as long as it is of good quality... I guess I was stereotyping- forgive the indiscretion. :deal
    BUT parts quality still remains a BIG question for me (IF I were to consider buying a resto).
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  11. Max Headroom

    Max Headroom lost in the '70s

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    I hear you too. It would be much more convenient if there were some sure-fire method of determining quality levels before laying down our hard-earned cash. As things stand, I haven't found it yet either . . .

    I completely restored my R90S almost seven years ago, and in the course of the restoration I bought stuff via the interweb from Australia, the UK, the USA, Germany and the Netherlands. Some stuff was OEM, while other stuff was aftermarket such as S/S mufflers, the seat, alloy indicator bodies, S/S indicator mounts, enamel badges, S/S wheel spokes etc. I found that everything fitted together and worked as advertised. By sticking to mainstream vendors and brand-names where possible, I believe that most of the risk was averted.

    And, more importantly, I can say that I'm still very happy with the quality of the after-market stuff seven years later.

    Incidentally, although I have already stated my preference for original, well-maintained machines, I will also say that there is immense satisfaction to be derived from taking a fully worn-out and completely dismantled basket case and returning it to the road. It is also very rewarding to clock up the miles on a "nut'n'bolt" restored bike. But for that bike to also then be impartially awarded at a classic bike show or featured in a bike magazine article can be only described as the cream on the cake. :nod
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  12. Skowinski

    Skowinski Eukaryote

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    Restored mechanically, frame repainted, engine cases cleaned and shiny, seat recovered, but the original paint... can't bring myself to touch it.

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  13. dmftoy1

    dmftoy1 Been here awhile

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    I'm doing an R90/6 (74) and using oem parts. There will be no way that I ever get even close to what I'll have in it if I ever sell but hopefully I'll get 12 years or so worth of pleasure in riding it, and the satisfaction of riding something that you don't see much around here. I'm only doing two things that are non original and I'm keeping oem parts for the next guy if he wants to return it to stock. (ToasterTan top brace, and r90s tank badges )
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  14. ricochetrider

    ricochetrider a certain something

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    Sweet. Great bike! Got any pix?
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    My '83 Sportster is sort of "restored" with old stock parts, but isn't entirely correct for the year/model. It's a rider, though, not a show bike. I've had really good luck finding old OEM parts on eBay, though. The stock exhaust, correct gas tank, front & rear fenders, NOS tach kit, etc. are all eBay finds. The shocks are from a newer model, and the seat and passenger pegs are OEM options. I have a correct chain guard (black) and license plate bracket I'll be installing soon. The fork gaitors are not correct - they're from a Honda GB500, but I like the look...:D. It qualifies for a "Vintage Vehicle" plate this year.

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