Professional Shipper, Trailering My Bike on CENTER STAND.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Barnstorm, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. Barnstorm

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    A bike I purchased is being shipped to me through a UShip shipper.

    I noticed on the photo he sent me that the bike was tied down and on the center stand.

    I have always NOT used a center stand as I have been told by my vintage friends (pun intended) that this is a NO NO, as to frame damage.

    Bikes should allow the suspension to do it's job when trailering.

    Below is the response I got back from the shipper.

    I assume he thinks he is more likely to get in trouble with customers over fork seals leaking than them noticing center stand frame tabs bent?

    Can anyone point me to some Manufacturer guidelines about trailering recommending NOT using a center stand that I can provide for this company?

    On the other hand, if I am completely wrong about this, please educate me.


    Shipper response:

    "Hi Timothy ,yes central stand is down but my best friend is owner of Harley Davidson dealership and 2 years ago I have conversation with him about this .he tell me to bike with metal(not aluminum) frame and kick stand is better to use this stand bcs constant pressure on fork can cose damage on them and metal frame and stand can't be damaged .i haul exactly 428 bikes in last 2 year and I never have any problem and I never damage any bike.If you prefer to I bring bike to its not on stand I will do this but pls be aware if fork stark to leak and have any damage I will not be responsible .I hear many opinion and I think to this is right how I strap but if you want to I strap him in your way I will do this for you.Thanks"

    Side note: None of the Harley's I have ever owned had center stands...
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  2. TrashCan

    TrashCan Scary Jerry

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    Is this shipper from Nigeria?
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  3. Navy Chief

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    I was thinking the same thing, I kept waiting for winning the lottery.

    I don't see a huge issue with shipping on the center stand, it is designed to take the weight of the bike; as long as he does not strap it down do tight that it bends the frame on both sides of the stand.... :deal
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  4. henshao

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    I would let the forks do their job...
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  5. RedShark

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    1. This person is an adult in possession of a driver's license ? I weep for our nation.

    2. Is aluminum NOT metal ?

    3. Constant pressure on the forks is detrimental ? Like when it's on its' wheels and gravity is in effect ?

    4. Please provide photo of any Harley Davidson on a center stand.

    5. Please return to your elementary school and ask for your money back.
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  6. eatpasta

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    side stand cant be damaged? Hope he doesnt haul a lot of Ducatis....
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  7. sailah

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    Personally I don't haul on the center stand but I can't see it being a huge issue. I prefer to let the suspension do it's thing, but I really don't see it being damaging unless he was ratcheting down on all 4 corners to the point of a strap breaking.
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  8. Boatman

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    I agree 100%.

    If he had it strapped down on the side stand I would be concerned but not the center stand.
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  9. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    Why do you need more evidence, the shipper told you he'd ship it how you want and that he won't be responsible for leaky seals
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  10. ReCycled

    ReCycled Been here awhile

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    I'm not quite picturing this. When on the centerstand, isn't the front wheel on the ground and forks will compressed anyway?
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  11. Barnstorm

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    If he has never chocked down a motorcycle before I don't want him learning with mine. If he as 200+ deliveries that were ok, I am going to gamble that my best bet is to let him do what he is used to.



    However, as stated in my originating post, for all of my motorcycling life (30 years) this (trailer on center stand) has been recommended against.

    So the evidence I am looking for is some real documentation or other evidence that he is correct and I am wrong, vise versa or nil.

    .
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  12. Barnstorm

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    Most bikes will rest on the rear wheels on the center stand.

    So there should be SOME suspension at play but I know many bikes (vespas and lambrettas come to mind) that simply sitting on the bike on the center stand will eventually cause damage. Some vintage BMWs are notorious for having weak centerstand frame tangs.
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  13. theshnizzle

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    Run away!
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  14. Human Ills

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    Gotcha, you want to make sure you're right before assuming liability. Good call.
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  15. double_entendre

    double_entendre Ticking away the....

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    I don't have a statistically valid sample, but no bike I've owned tended to be tail down when on the center stand. They all rested with he front wheel down and the rear wheel in the air.
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  16. Human Ills

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    It is the point of a centerstand :lol3
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  17. markk53

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    Older BMWs tip back on the back wheel, no Japanese bikes do, nor did my Guzzi.

    Tyiing down forks will not blow seals. If it did bikes would blow them out all the time when the suspension gets pounded. There is extremey remote chance the fork springs might sack out 1/8" :lol3 but not likely. Look at the impact a bike takes when landing from some serious air over a jump. If that doesn't blow the seals your transport won't either.

    One company that builds and transports new bikes to dealers through out Ohio and surrounding states ties them down against the suspension, new bikes. No blown seals we ever saw at the dealership where I worked over about a decade.

    If you don't want it tied down on the center stand tell them you will be responsible for the seals and to tie it down against the forks and shocks. It won't hurt anything - unless there is a nick or corrosion on your fork leg or shock shaft that might cut the seal and that would eventually happen anyway.

    A bazillion bikes tied down in the backs of pickups and on trailers can prove the seal thing is pure BS. In 40+ years I've never seen a set blown out by tie down.
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  18. Steve G.

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    Gets his advice from an owner of an HD dealership????? HD's don't have centrestands. Fucking idiot.
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  19. mach1mustang351

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    When I would transport my dirt bike I would tie it down then kick the side stand out. Thought being if that strap on the right side broke the bike wouldn't fall all the way down right away... reality... it wouldn't really matter
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  20. Barnstorm

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    You are correct, I was thinking one thing and typing another.
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