Project Full Circle:Ninja 650 gets a makeover

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by sailah, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Curious why you wouldn't take advantage of the bolt above the peg? The gourde looks a bit weak, especially with the moment you are creating having the peg so far away from the bolt. Kinda forces you to put a crossmember in.
  2. dentvet

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    Make the trial plate even bigger so you can try further forward, etc. I think the peg position is going to depend on how far forward you can get your seat to be and how much standing you plan to do on the pegs. If you stand up alot, you might want to copy the layout on your husky and have your pegs even further forward.

    I think the left might dictate things also because at some point, your left toe runs into the stator housing.
  3. ktmklx

    ktmklx Been here awhile

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    That fairing is very cool.

    Shouldn't those pegs be called "forwardsets"?:evil
  4. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Well that bolt hole is an M8 which is def not strong enough. It's also too high and my knees were into the tank. The "dong" as it shall now be referred to:lol3 was just a trial part. I expect that once I have a sample made it will allow movement of the peg mount to exactly where I want it. I'm not going to know that for awhile due to tank and seat still not being done.

    I think it's going to be seriously strong. 3/16" plate is what I built my shock mounts from and they are pretty beefy. Plus I'm welding the entire length of it, which is probably 6-8" of continuous welding. The only thing I'm trying to eliminate is lateral flex and that is easy either by bracing it to a cross member or running a tube underneath.

    Yeah the plate is big enough for mock up purposes that's why I left some room to move. I really just wanted to make sure I got the frame curves and bolt holes correct so when I start making the real ones out of the 3/16" plate that they are right.

    My waterjet guy is charging me $10 for the first one out of 1/8" plate he has on hand. The remaining sets I have made are $11/each with me supplying the material which will be close to free if not free from my buddy.

    I dig the fairing. I might modify it and pull a mold off it so if I crash I don't have to do it all over again.

    Yeah I guess they are now know as "dong, the forwardset":D
  5. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Good thought regarding a cradle. I also have to work in the exhaust running under there too. I am in the process of buying a header so I should be able to mock that in place.

    I'm convinced with the thickness of plate I am running that these sets are going to be massively strong. If I crash hard enough to wreck those, my bike will be the last thing on my mind.
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    "Dong....where is my automobile?"
  7. LocuL

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    Sailah you are very skillful and i´m follovving this thread. I think you some great ideas. Íf just i had the metal fabrication skills i vvould have been vvay better put in this game. I´m deep into my ovvn project and vvhile it can be a bit slovv sometimes the small progress can be seriously addictive.

    Keep it comming.

    from Denmark

    Mikael
  8. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Mikael,

    Thanks I've read your thread since the beginning. Honestly my next project is something similar to yours,, thats a fantastic way to do it.

    I know this bike won't have enough power. My 950 was always my favorite bike

    Peter
  9. 13.1

    13.1 Shaken not Stirred

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    hey pete,

    THIS BIKE WILL HAVE ENOUGH POWER
    ...it is just that WE AMERICANS have grown use to "excessiveness" in everything we want or do:evil


    how else could you describe the need to have a "dirt bike" with nearly 90 hp?:deal
    .....and that is why we buy the ktm 950, right? because it's dirt capabilities far exceed those of the other manufacturers that make bikes this size

    .
  10. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Nah, 90 hp is for pussies, my fz1 has 145...:D
  11. LocuL

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    nahh fantastic vvay is alot to say about this. I´m not fully satisfied vvith the outcome so far. But as a vvork in progress i hope to hone my skills and make it shovv on the bike. Regarding HP, vvell i like ´em.

    :freaky
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    Don't mean to be a smart ass but.... did you loose your " w " key? :lol3
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    hahahaha! :rofl
  15. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Got my stuff back from the waterjet guy.

    First the Dong is Done:D

    Fits well, I knew I'd have to grind it where the welds from the tab attach to the frame. No biggie, and the bolts line up great. I'm going to punch some holes in it and hopefully find a good peg position when the new IMS pro pegs arrive. My waterjet guy looks at me when I walked in and said "WTF is that??":lol3


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    He also made a plate that the fuel pump will bolt to. I had to open up the hole slightly to about 60 mm. I don't use my 4 jaw chuck often but tonight was one of those nights

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    Here it is bolted to the plate

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    And the 4" square tubing I'm basing the surge tank from

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    I need to find a sealant for the threads as they will be exposed to gas, didn't really think that through. Any suggestions? I bought some Loctite No 567 sealant as it was recommended for gasoline.
  16. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Halomar.Gas shouldn't affect it.
  17. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Link? I couldn't find it on McMaster
  18. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    What I have is made by Permatex, Hylomar universal blue racing formula.gasket dressing and flange sealant.
    Says it's suitable on fuel injectors and pumps.
    It comes in a tube like silicon but it's 2-3 times as expensive.You should be able to find it at a decent auto parts store.
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    You're going to weld that plate to the square tube right?

    Weld some caps over the bolt holes.