Projectors?

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  1. btcn

    btcn Long timer

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    Hey y'all, so I'm fixin to build me a home theater in my bedroom.


    I figure the best TV is a projector, kinda like them video projectors used at office meetings.

    I'm always love these things. The higher end ones look nearly crystial clear, and pleanty bright even in a light up room.

    In a house I used to live in years ago we used to have one that come with the house. It was a viewsonic one I believe LCD. Had a huge screen that come out of the ceiling with an electric, and the projector is mounted on the ceiling with a remote. It really was awesome.

    But sadly we made the mistake to leave it there when we moved!:baldy It was a dim light by then though since its worn out and they's expansive for a new bulb.

    So now, I want to make a home theater in my bedroom. There ain't no basement and its the darkest room. Also, I have a bed that save room its way up and a desk in it a modified bunkbed. The room is also huge, with real high ceilings. Plenty big.

    The winders will be covered up, either by tinfoil and white carbboard boxes to make it nearly pitch black. The room is awesome, I put an AC in the door thats super quiet.

    The room is actually almost set up. I made a cheap screen with paper its about 100 inches, but eventually I'll buy the good one. I have a little station with a mini fridge, movie style desktop popcorn machine, icee machine, and a water cooler. I have a good Onkyo surround sound with a big subwoofer. Theres a entertainment shelf with a RCA big TV and the screens above it, and a Tivo in it, and a gamer machine with an Xbox and playstation. Then theres a shelf back yonder with a movies in it. Then the projectors back there too with a long cable. Eventually I'm fixin to mount it in the wall but its temporary. Theres also a couch for 3 people.

    So, I bought me a Projector at the Flea market about a month ago, a Toshiba TDP-T45. I tested it at the menu there. But damnit when I brung it home there ain't no color! Its worth lots I paid only $150, they's worth $1,000 used on ebay and Amazon for this model. The problem is the color wheel. I think its a little blurry too something ain't right.


    So this weekend we's going to the flea market try to find another one. This time test it's video and quality+color though. But its probably a temporary one if its not a super good one.

    Eventually I'll get a good one. Any suggestions? I don't need the best out there. 2D is good enough. I want about 2K Lumens or so. Don't care about HDMI. I think LCD is good but DLP is ok but want a 3 chip if possible. Want about a 3,000 hour or more bulb life. Any of y'all had one? What models is good? I'm fixin to spend about up to $1,000 someday but the cheaper is ok. And I preciate any other ideas to make my theater more badass! Thanks!
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  2. Sniper X

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    Here's the low down on a projector.

    DO NOT buy an lcd projector for presentations like powerpoint. They look like shit warmed over with a video signal input to them. Buy a DLP projector or a projector listed as a Home Theater projector and make sure it is an HD projector with a minimum NATIVE resolution of 720p if not 1920X1080 which is full HD. Use only the HDMI input. and buy as bright a projector and as good a screen as you can and don'[t use a bedsheet for a screen or a white wall.
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    invest in spell check first so you don't wind up with a Coby projector..
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    You might want to check out the avsforum. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68
    Probably more relevant info than advrider. I have an Epson 8100 LCD unit http://www.amazon.com/Epson-PowerLite-Theatre-Projector-V11H336120/dp/B002T0KTSWthat is full HD that I like and had a Sharp DLP before that that was also decent it was only 1024x768 but still nice to watch. I used a 4'x8' (trimmed to 16:9 aspect ratio) piece of 1/2" Gatorboard that is hinged to the ceiling for a screen. I found I really like a FLAT screen better than one with any wrinkles in it. I painted one a light grey foam core screen, but the one I have now and like is just the original white color of the Gator board. I buried a magnet in the ceiling and a piece of steel in the bottom edge of the screen so it will stick up to the ceiling or I can swing it down to watch. I have a little tab sticking out of the bottom of the screen I hook with a stick to pull it down or stick it back on the ceiling. I made my own hinges for the other edge. I don't see a big difference between component or HDMI input quality, but I am not a video fanatic.
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    The trouble with older DLP's in the lower price range is that they often suffer from the "rainbow" effect of the color wheel. A lot of people have trouble watching them. If you're paying 200-400 dollars for an older one it will have the issue. These days it is difficult to tell HD projectors apart. LCD's have good black levels and DLP's don't suffer from the color wheel problem any longer. I've had both in the past but currently have an LCD. Pretty much all LCD and DLP projectors are full resolution HD at this point in the 2k price range and both are stunning to watch. Even a 2-4 year old 720p projector in either LCD or DLP is stunning. But then I'm a big fan of projectors.
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    Thanks for the replies!

    Sniper X yea eventually I'm fixin to get a real nice home theater projector, like $500-$2,000 or so. For now, I'll get what I can at the flea market Sunday if theres any for sale. We done had an LCD that wasn't home theater was on the ceiling looks alright. Not hi def but reasonable. But thanks for the tips.

    Fe Man what's a coby projector? And I don't have that bad a spelling, if so its just laziness.

    GSWayne yea I'll get a nice screen. Right now I just use a huge pieces of paper, that work pretty well, a lot better than the wall. I like your idea for the screen though. And I ain't a video fanatic neither so as long as its looks pretty clear is good enough for me.

    RonS yea I've herd about that there rainbow affect. I don't know hopefully it don't bother me I herd it only bothers a few people to where they can hardly watch. For my used one oh well what can I do if its DLP? Better than no color at all! For my home theater I'll get a real good one so I won't have to worry about it.

    But thanks y'all for the tips I'll be letting you know what happens.
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    Projectors have come such a long way, that the home theater HD nativs versions look as good as come commercial grade projectors save for the brightness. And you don't need (much) brightness over 1500l in a controllable setting so 1500~2000l is fine for home use.
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    You can't be from Morgan Hill originally. I have been there a lot and people there don't talk like they are from Alabama! You gotta be from the deep south originally right? I aint hackin, just askin.
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    Yea I ain't from here. I ain't from the deep south, from the tip of southern Ohio, in a small town called Portsmouth, its kind of in the Appalachian mountains and everybody talk sort of like that up there, and my moms from Louisiana and lived in southern Ohio a lot of her life and spent some time in the deeper south. Some of my family's also from Kentucky and I spent some time there too. Also, most of my family talks like this. When I type I CAN type good, but sometimes I just get lazy, and it makes it go by faster, you know?

    I don't mind you asking. Probably like WTF right? Most people think I'm Beverly Hillbillies or a poser or something when they find out I live here.:lol3 I won't live too much longer in California [or Californny!:lol3]. Its got real nice weather, beutiful state to ride in [can't get much better!:deal]. But damn some of these people! Man. And they's building so many damn houses, I swear one day its gonna be one big city, from San Jose to San Francisco! We already is destroying much of the farmland here in Morgan Hill. When I first come here, It's real nice small town, about 30,000 population. Kinda a little country setting. Just perfect. Now, here we is, 50,000 people and climbing! Most of the nice land ruined, with shit houses! Yea have cities, but stop destroying so much land! Whats next probably San Martin?

    I'm won't be staying here too long though. While its beutiful state, I'll probably go back to Ohio or Kentucky, its where all my kin's at, and MUCH less uptight people. People treat each other much better there for the most part. Also, the law makers here is sometimes such dicks. Its just too uptight and fast pace out here for me.

    I love the deep south too. Been there, not tooo much but I like it there a lot. I just personally like the people, the scenery, etc. Espically the mountain folk, they live a much slower paced, simple life, there behind in technology. They treat eachother very well, and its a great community. Now not ALWAYS, but there is such thing as southern hospitality.

    I'm not too into high technoology, but man do I like projectors! Its like a little box that makes a screen about as big as your walls can go! Pricy but awesome!
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    I used to live in Morgan Hill... neat place... send me a mushroom shirt, if you will.
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    Yea it is a neat place. For motorcycling, I honestly couldn't ask for a much better place. Great weather, never gets too cold, lots of seneic roots to ride, with ease access to Santa Cruz and highway 1.

    While eventually I'll likely move, I'm gonna stay awhile and get in all the riding possible.

    What kinda mushroom shirt if your serious?
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    Well, I didn't find me none at the flea market. Theres one, but its some mexican he can't speak english, and he won't let me test it and if he does he's double the price! Its $60 he says he's charge $120 if he test it!

    Get this. When I asked him if it works, he says, I don't know!:huh Seriously? You own a projector yet you don't know if it works?:lol3 Anyways, not worth my time if he ain't gonna let me try it and give money back if it ain't a workin.

    Then there was another one, but it was an old Infocus one. But, I done asked him how much, he said in spanish I can't understand. But some mexican woman knows it was $5! But she got it before I had a chance. I know it was an old POS, but still for $5 probably could sell on ebay for like $20 for parts even if it don't work! But I'm sure it don't work and was worthless cause it's an old LCD. Not near what I was looking for but if it did work it'd be cool just for messing around. Oh well.

    Other than those, there was non! Usually theres tons! Well, as y'all know how tools are, if your looking for something, you won't never find it. Just like a tool, your looking for in your garage, never find it, then go buy another you find 2 in your garage! I can see all the stuff I already had but looked for, but no projectors!


    BUT, just screwin around at home later, checking Ebay+CL. CL some alright deals still very $. Ebay same some shitty cheapo ones cheap but those are old shitty ones. So I was looking Ebay, then I seed one pop up. Its a Mitsubishi. $100 from a well reputated dealer! It is refirbished. But, its a home theater DLP model. It is HD, I believe its a pretty good actual resolution. It does 1080i or whatever and its decent.

    1,300 Lumens. 1,300 should be good for a pretty dark room right? I herd for a dedicated home theater 1,000 is even enough.

    But, good reviews. Its a little bit older, I believe a 2007. But a 3,000 hour bulb life, a little more than average pretty good. And the reviews says they ain't got no problems with no rainbow effect on it. Its got a 1 year warranty, and 7 days to return if I pay to ship it if I don't like it. But hell, $99+$20 shipping, can't go wrong! With Ebay buyer protection on Paypal it should be legitiment.

    But, I'll let y'all know how it works out. This should keep me satisfied till I can afford a real hi end one.
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    Mushroom Mardigrass is coming up, isn't it?
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    I think so, I haven't been to one in a while. I think they's usually in the summer. If I find one then I could get ya one, I'll let ya know!



    And, man, what, waiting despertly for my projector! It's 1300 lumens should be adequet, since I'm fixin to make a more theater like experance by darkening the room almost completely.

    I don't have strict requirements for quality, as long as it looks reasonably well I'm happy.
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    Its here, but sun bitch! I was riding yestarday, and missed them fedex! It was shewdgled for monday, but it was in Watsonville, but the tracking said it ain't out for Delivery yet. So I thought I could go for a 2-3 hour ride, actually went over Watsonville on 152, but then I come home and the notes on the door! DAMN!

    So, I called them and I'll be picking it up on Monday. Man, it got here fast! The tracking was a bit behind is why!

    Oh well, can't wait for Monday! I'll let y'all know how it works out. It seems to be a great model for its time. Not that old from 2007. But with HD and such, I's looking foward to it.
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    1080i and 1300 lumens should work well enough to knock your socks off. The previous generation of projectors I've had with those specs were pretty nice. I'd find myself forgetting what I was watching because I was engrossed in the picture itself. If the projector does not have decent up scaling (NTSC to HD) be sure to play DVD's through a player that does a quality job. Also set the contrast and brightness levels to levels that don't blow out the whites or raise the dark levels too much. It'll probably have a setup menu and/or different modes like Cinema, Sports, dynamic and others. Best to start with those and see what suits your tastes. Good luck with it. I hope it works as well as some of the ones I've had.
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    DAMN! This baby works SWEET!

    RonS, for the price I paid, not only did it knock my socks off, but my boots too! Thanks for the tips!

    So I picked it up yestarday at the Fedex station. And WOW. This thing come packaged like its brand new! All them wires and cables is in plastic and has twisties on it. The projector is packaged very well, in foam and such and in plastic. It come with a DVD with the intruction manual too. Packaged very well and plenty of cables.

    I can't believe it. $99 buy it now and $20 shipping on ebay. It felt like opening a brand new one. Well it is essintially brand new, just refirbished, but factory refirbished. It is in perfect shape, not a SINGLE scratch or nick on it. Has a 1 year factory warranty from mitsubishi, and I even has 7 days to return it if I don't like it. BUT, that sure won't be happening!

    So, I briefly read the instruction manual [which is a good ideal these things be delicate]. Lerned about how they has Mecury compressed in the light bulb and it can blow up, this is why they has you replace it at 2-3K hours. That could be dangerious, as far as I know that shit can hurt your eyes and blow up the projector. But thats a decent life spand.

    But overall, I's extremely impressed with it. I hooked up the Playstation on the component, and wow! I like the Widescreen, it also does 4:3 well. But playing that Grand Turismo 5, y'all may know that game has demanding graphics, it looks about as good as my TV!

    It has a very slight Screen Door, but I could care less. Only if you look very closly. I herd if you put it a tiny bit out of focus it'll get rid of most of it. But I don't give a damn. Its not noticable unless you really look close.

    No rainbow effect as far as I know. Looks great, I'm gonna enjoy this one!
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    Congrats man! As far as the mercury, when I was a kid my best friends father was a dentist. We would play with the dental mercury and break thermometers to get the mercury. We'd roll it back and forth in our hands before pouring back in the bottle or tossing it in the dirt. I'm sure it will kill me and/or the planet someday but hopefully not before the alcohol, tobacco, firearms, sedentary life style, poor diet and dangerous motorsports do. What I'm saying is, fuck it, kick back pour yourself a tall one and enjoy.
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    So, what model is it?
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    As to the model, its actually a Mitsubishi HC100U.

    RonS, yea I never know about it, I guess its not that harmful, your right baccer'll probably kill me before that does! But just wasn't sure didn't want it to blow up in my face and get in my eyes as like many I'd much rather die than lose my sight.

    But yea! I'm definitly enjoy this one! I think it's one of the best deal I's ever got! And I've got some killer deals at the flea market before. Like a big ass top and bottom Craftsman toolchest for $30, a classic 60s chopped Honda Minibike for $75 with a street legal, all kinds of shit. Although those was some kickass deals! Maybe about even.

    I mean on account it's basically brand new, has a 1 year warranty, etc. And it looks so good. I was certain it couldn't be so sweet! But its perfect!

    Now just set up the home theater.

    And BTW to y'all, its true those lumens ratings are actually somewhat irrelevent. I read that they was. With the sun partly shining on the paper I has for a screen, and quite a bit of ambient light, Projector about 12 feet away, it looks fine. It works best dark, but its not that dim really. We's had much higher rated one before that ain't no brighter. Like the online says that if I has any light at 12 feet away over 5% ambient light, it needs more lumens. I don't think so. Yea if the lights will be on a bit then its a good ideal but it works great.
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