Promoto Billet/Fastway Stabilizer

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by RoundOz, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. Zuber

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    I never found a situation where I needed to turn off the high speed damping. It is only there to catch the bars for you.

    If the low speed is turned up too high, like going from a high speed rock road to low speed tight trails, I've had to turn it down. It's rideable, but you notice the extra effort to flip the bars.

    I've seen several of the dampers fail, leak, develop catches, break. Not the Scotts or the Fastway. I've only seen a very old Scotts get weak, may be from old fluid.
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  2. mousitsas

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    I never had a SS on an off road bike and I can see the benefits of having one. However there are some situations on my SE that I fail to see how they would help. These are cases where due to generous throttle input the back end fishtails quite aggressively. It happens a lot on steep uphill sections. No stabiliser and all is nice and dandy. What would happen though if I had one?
    I think and please correct me if I am wrong, that SS's are helpful when you have a planted rear end and a playful front, but when the opposite is true (which is 50% of the times when offroading) then not so.
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  3. ShoelessJoe

    ShoelessJoe DefromisSedSupendium

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    Craig, if you are listening we need a way to mount a scotts damper to the OEM triple!

    Seriously, I am going to send him an email to see if he can work something out. I would love to see if he can fab something up that would be more cost effective than replacing the triple or using the fastway model.
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  4. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Craig makes beautiful, well-engineered designs in fairly small production runs. It's a lot easier for a big company to recoup development costs and overheads when selling thousands of units. That being said, if Craig can come up with an adaptor plate (??? I have never fitted a rotary style damper so don't understand why the OEM won't work, other than that the lower clamps are angled, so not in the same plane of rotation...correct me if this wrong)...then maybe we can all profit.
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    LukasM Long timer

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    Guys the Fastway damper uses the same mounting bolt pattern as the Scotts! So the mounts should interchange.
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  7. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Consensus seems to be that Scott's will not mount on the OEM triple and the Fastway will. I have an email in to Scott's for a definitive answer and explanation. Will post it when I get it. I am sure this has been done before (see threads above).
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  8. LukasM

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    Whether it fits the triples should have nothing to do with the stabilizer itself - unless there is interference on the controls - but with the mount. If you get the Fastway mount, you should be able to mount a Scotts damper without having to change the top triples. You might also need a longer damper arm to reach the pin mounted to the frame.

    I am using a Fastway System 5 damper on a Scotts submount on my FE570, works great.

    [​IMG]
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  9. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    I am not sure why this is apparently so complicated, but after reading half a dozen posts and email replies from suppliers that say the Scott's needs an aftermarket triple clamp, it tends to be persuasive. If all it takes is the bracket from Fastway, then that is a solution, but is the bracket available separately? Also, it seems like the Scotts-equivalent Promoto/Fastway is the type 5, not the 3, and the Scott's with the triple (best price with discount coupon) is only marginally more expensive than the Fastway type 5 without a triple, so with a bracket added in it may be a wash. It all depends on whether you think you need the extra feature of the 5. Don't quote my math, this is just a ballpark reckoning.
    My other concern was fitting my HDB handguards, which are sized for the OEM triple, but Paul at HDB (being the great guy that he is) will swap out topclamps in good condition for free.
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  10. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Thanks for the photo btw, as I was trying to figure if the Fastway would fit with my HDB topclamp (and still have access to damping adjustment while seated) and it looks like it would. Am I correct in thinking you have no risers fitted? It looks like the standard bar clamps...
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  11. Whip

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    At the moment Fastway doesn't have any in stock and doesn't exactly know when they will.

    Sooo...maybe none of this matters.

    :norton
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  12. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Sounds like a well run company. Seems to be a few of those in our little world.
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  13. Whip

    Whip Onward through the fog

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    Things may be beyond their control.?>?>


    I have been talking with Justin and it seems that there are few items needed to make the dampner and they don't have them and don't know when they will get them. He hopes to get them in the next couple weeks.

    I have one on Back Order.
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  14. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Fair enough. That must be a tough position to be. In.
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    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    Here is word of mouth (keyboard actually) from Scott's regarding earlier discussion about the fitment with/without triple:

    "Our damper kit for the KTM 950/990 adventure requires replacing the
    stock triple clamp with our triple clamp. The reason why we cannot use the
    stock triple clamp is if we did a top mount the damper would be mounted to
    high for a frame bracket tower to reach. A sub mount will not work as the
    perch spacing left to right is to narrow. That only leaves us the option of
    using a new triple clamp with the correct spacing and set up for a sub
    mount."
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  16. Helios

    Helios Been here awhile

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    Rally Moto RM2... Research it

    Easy...:evil

    -H
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  17. Schleprock

    Schleprock Let's Do This!

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    Fits well, lots of room and I didn't have to take top clamp or any portion of the bars off. Hth Dave :clap
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  18. RoundOz

    RoundOz Plenty of seasoning

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    ...I had to re-read most of this thread to put me back in damper mode. When I did that it wasnt clear to me which one you fitted. The RM2?
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  19. Schleprock

    Schleprock Let's Do This!

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    Fastway from promotobillet.
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