puppy dog route

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Northeast, Southeast & Florida' started by Desert Penguin, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. cosmickites

    cosmickites Been here awhile

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    ha, no, never got up there on the 200. i can enjoy riding that bike anywhere,, but it is pretty exhausting on long rides of road. stoked for the 1190 on this.

    rode amazing off road a few weeks back (when bike had only 5 miles on it)

    even with stock tires did pretty well off road and deep water.

    enjoy your ride in VT next week. cant wait to hear about it
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  2. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    Just did this last week on the way to the Northern New England Adventure Trail. It's in great shape and as someone else commented, you could do it on a golding, or, more likely a Subaru, seeing how it's vt:-)
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  3. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    It's great fun though, and an awesome way to cover the length of the state for your heady topper run! It could be done in a day. I got to the halfway point, and didn't even get to greenfield until 1:00...
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  4. cosmickites

    cosmickites Been here awhile

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    well, we succeded in NOT finishing the PD. left long beach on wednesday 6:30am. got to greenfield MA by about 1pm. RAINED entire time. jumped on start of PD in Greenfield and headed to White River Junction, continued POURING entire time. the trail was pretty but kind of hard to really enjoy it fully considering the pouring pounding rain. Hunkered down in White River for the night and woke up thursday and saw nothing but tons of rain on the radar. decided to take the twisty roads back home. 350 miles each day. not the best moto trip but made it there and back without incident. my 1190 in rain mode was amazing. i felt totally safe riding in that rain, even getting on the gas in the twistys. until next time ....
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  5. classyd

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    What's the Northern New England Adventure Trail?
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  6. zeeede

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  7. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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  8. DaveyMac

    DaveyMac AARP Trail Rider

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    resurrection of this thread, MOV holding there Puppy Dog Ride this Weekend 2016
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  9. Kenstogie

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    I understand the .gpx may have had issues.... . still was a great ride for me though not the pdr....
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  10. DBMByTheSea

    DBMByTheSea n00b

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    can you do the PDR 2 Up? My GF is tiny (100lbs) and barely noticeable on the back of the GS Adv .. we do lots of jeep tracks and dirt roads to go camping, but nothing super rocky or technical
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  11. Kenstogie

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    I understand you.can
    ....the gpx file is not so good so pgm your own directions.
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  12. flei

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    Yes, IMO it can be ridden easily 2-up in Summer (i.e., when the roads are not wet/muddy). It is not rocky or technical. It is all public roads. Dirt roads in Summer in VT are smoother than most paved roads in MA (and ANY road on the No. Shore)! I can usually cruise at 40-50mph on most of the PDR (being conscious of houses, cars, horses, pets, etc.). FWIW, I have ridden with guys who rode it 2-up on street bikes with street tires. You are not out in some "wilderness" and can also VERY easily ride around anything you might want to skip (like if you run into a section being graded). The entire area (and State) is covered with dirt/paved roads and you really can't go wrong on any of them!
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  13. DBMByTheSea

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    Thanks so much for the reply -- on a route that long its always nice to get a sense of what's in store before heading out. Sounds like a lot of the dirt roads we already ride.
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  14. adventurelounger

    adventurelounger Been here awhile

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    Little help with trip planning for the PDR in a couple of weeks...and thanks in advance to flei and Rhode Trip who've shared some ideas via PM...

    So in a few weeks, my riding buddy and I will have 3 days to ride up into Vermont and back. We'd like to do as much of it on dirt as possible, weather permitting.

    Rhode Trip was kind enough to share .GPX files for the Trans Mass Trail (I rode it once) and the PDR (I rode some of the southern portion once), as well as some neat CT backroad dirt riding up through CT.

    Here's where I could use a little help:

    DAY ONE ROUTING
    On day one, we have to get to Manchester, VT where we have a motel. If I add up the CT, MA, and VT dirt to get there, it's about 333 miles of dirt road in a day. Since one of us will be on the Guzzi Scrambler (not quite and ADV bike), I don't think we'll exactly be flying. So is that crazy ambitious for day 1?

    DAY TWO ROUTING
    From Manchester, we plan on taking Route 11 back over to the PDR and heading north. But we have to essentially ride a loop, or a line up and then back down somewhere, because we have to overnight within riding distance back to CT for day three. Here's where I'm running into some GPS/.GPX aggravation...

    1) If I want to ALTER and existing route with waypoints, how do you do that? I've tried duplicating a "List" and then deleting portions I don't want to ride. Is that how you do it?

    2) From around, say, Londonerry VT, how far NORTH on the PDR do you think you could ride in a day before doing a U-turn and heading back down, so that we could overnight somewhere in southern VT (Chester/Grafton/Townshend area)? One idea was to take the longer, Western loop of the PDR, get as high as Bolton, VT, before turning south and following the Winooski River from Waterbury to Middlesex and then PDR south to wherever we'd overnight. Is that a reasonable distance for a day?

    DAY THREE ROUTING HOME

    We'd figure it out—mix up some dirt/backroads for a casual amble back to CT.

    Any thoughts/suggestions? And anyone want to suggest a simple way to start with the great .GPX files and routes provided by another inmate, but alter them for our trip? Many thanks in advance!
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  15. the kawasaki kid

    the kawasaki kid Been here awhile

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    How did your running of the PDR go? I am about to embark on this route in a couple weeks and would love any route intel you would be willing to provide.
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  16. adventurelounger

    adventurelounger Been here awhile

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    Funny you should ask. Been preparing a ride report, but here's a quick summary.

    We went two weeks ago; northbound on a Friday and Saturday, and southbound on Sunday. In addition to the PDR, we rode the Trans Mass Trail and a mix of Route 8 and some backroads down through CT. Rode with my friend from CA, trading off the two bikes we took: a '13 Super Tenere and a '16 Moto Guzzi V7II Stornello.

    The PDR was awesome. Weather was perfect. Roads were dry, but not too dusty.

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    We started on Green River Road in MA (north of Greenfield), and followed it up into Vermont. The covered bridge over Green River was still closed, so we followed the detour, which was longish but fine.

    I'd say the ONLY challenge I had was with the GPX files and routes. I downloaded a route from a generous inmate here (Rhode Trip), and it may just be that I'm a GPS idiot, but at times the GPS had us on glorious Vermont dirt roads, and at others, it seemed like the route just cut between two waypoints and we wound up on pavement for a fair bit. Or it seemed like the GPS was asking us to turn off of a paved section but the route just went into woods or fields or someone's yard, without any trail-like object in sight.

    That said, we still got TONS of Vermont dirt road glory.

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    One section north of Woodstock (I think) took us through a "hero section" in the woods. It was occasionally steep, pretty rocky, rutted, muddy, and with several ledges. We made it through without a spill (or tearing open either bike's oil pan). Probably ill-advised for the Stornello, but it was a hoot and we felt like champions.

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    My turn on the Storny...

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    And my brotherman Jonah's on the SuperTen...

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    Me at my namesake road in Vermont.

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    We rode as far north as Montpelier on Day 2, and decided to slab it back down to Brattleboro at dusk so we could overnight there and do a more leisurely run down the Trans Mass Trail and into CT on Sunday.

    Only critical piece of advice, since it should still be warm-ish—bring a bathing suit and towel. We stopped off several times at rivers or swimming holes (check out http://www.swimmingholes.org/vt.html) to get out of our kit and take a swim. That was awesome. Best swimming was here in Bridgewater VT.

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    Enjoy and ride safe!
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  17. SRTie4k

    SRTie4k Naked Explorer

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    Me and a buddy did a significant portion of it in a day, a few weeks ago. We left Keene NH at 6:30AM and arrived in St Albans VT at 9AM for breakfast. Then we made our way over 105 until we hit the upper portion, just below where it loops around. I think we started on the PDR at 11AM, and stopped for breaks maybe 4-5 times along the way, and we took the "long" route around Camel's Hump. It was finally getting dark when we hit 131 coming out of Cavendish, so we decided to peel off and head back to Keene. Total mileage was 525 miles in 11 hours.

    IIRC the time we did it before that, we hooked up with it at Putney Mtn Road at 11AM and hit Bridgewater by 2PM or so. I think if we were hustling, we could have timed it a bit better and done nearly all of it. Leave at 5AM, limit breakfast to 30min, plan gas stops better.

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  18. the kawasaki kid

    the kawasaki kid Been here awhile

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    Awesome stuff; many thanks for the up to date Intel, fellas. I can't wait to embark on this adventure!
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