Quebec riders, get your plate renewal yet?

Discussion in 'Canada' started by willh, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. willh

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    Looks like the SAAQ is starting random sound level testing on the roads.
    Nice fines for loud pipes...
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  2. lubelhu

    lubelhu Forever n00b

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    Got mine yesterday. $1115.06 for my 2 bikes. Not cheep. :huh

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  3. WildAnCrazymtl

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    Where did you see that, on the renewal form?



    Go mine, give or take 900 for my two bikes, a GS and a DRZ!

    Plus the extra 60 some for the privilage of the 6a class.

    Plus insurance...

    The overloard(s) thinks we all make the same money as him/them... :lol3:lol3:lol3:lol3

    Not sure what is up with all the provinces acting so stupid with bikers. If you read the forums it seems to be a trend in Canadiastan.

    This summer I met guy from Montana, if I recal correctly was bitching that his 10.00 fee would become annual and no longer for the life of the bike...

    I do not see a reason for such disparity... :eek1
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  4. jasonmt

    jasonmt Been here awhile

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  5. willh

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    Dude that 24 page document including the annexe is your tax dollars at work. It basicaly says your bike at idle can't be louder then 92 dBa. Your bike at 2500 RPM for a 1,2 or 6 cylinders and at 5000 RPM for 3 and 4 cylinder bikes can't be louder than 100 dBa. They also establish the testing procedure in lenght. It looks to be directed at the harley crowd if you look at the picture of the bike they use in the sketch... :lol3

    I wonder if they will modify art 636 to includ the application of this new drivel.

    Probably won't ever see it applied to me, my bikes are quiet, that phase of my life has been over for a while.
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    WildAnCrazymtl Political Prisonor

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    Not sure what ftfy means or why you added the word " communist " to my statement before quotting... But thank you and have a nice day :clap:clap:clap
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  8. willh

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    My French reading comprehension isn't too bad... I'm going to have to invest in a dBA meter and check my Superduke out, should be close.

    2500rpm is pretty near idle for my bike :lol3
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  10. Attico

    Attico Wrong way 'round

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    RE the sound testing.


    If you look on the site, they have the document on how it should be tested.

    First, they're limiting it to 100db. Second. The procedure is so complicated, there is no way they don't make a mistake. My advice, it they ask to test advise them you will be recording the procedure with your camera phone.

    An example is that the bike must be in a center stand, wit a rubber isolator under the stand and it must be revved to 2500rpm. I dont have a centerstand or a tach on my wrr. I think they are looking at the pirate crowd witth their hardley drivables.

    Take a look at the document.
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    I believe the video is probably a good idea.

    However my interpretation is different. 6.1.2 states the driver holds the bike upright...... 4.6 mentions about an external tach... I never herd of that but.... It also mentions that the bikes tach can be used...

    I agree this is for the harley pipes.

    If you read it again show me where they mention the center stand and rubber... I saw something similar concering the microphone though.
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  12. Attico

    Attico Wrong way 'round

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    I didn't see the reference to an external tach. I'm not letting anyone do anything to my bike. They can hold a mic whereever tthey are, but they can't connect anything.

    I think it is unreasonable to ask an owner to hold the bike upright and rev the engine.

    The part with the stand is near the section with the diagrams, it is in both the cyclomoteur and motocyclette section...just going off memory and i'm too lazy to look it up :D

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  13. Tremblant1

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    Well ill admit it, I am French! And that document is absolutely full of loopholes for you or anyone that can read to dismiss the testing.
    2.5m Clarence
    No more then 36kph wind
    Has to be free of any object on the ground like branches, etc...
    I mean good luck to enforce it!

    Plus I live next to a racetrack and the cars sometime go beyond 100db just driving. That in its self could dismiss the test!

    To compare a siren on an emergency vehicle is set no louder then 96 db, so if you think your bike at 2500rpm for 2 sec or even at 5000rpm for that matter exceeds a siren... Hope you have good earplugs!

    Don't sweat it!

    But you can see where our super crazy fees go to. University papers like this!!

    Bravo!
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  14. WildAnCrazymtl

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    I guess you never heard of police sticking wire into the exhaust pipes to check for baffels. The SQ did it a bit, but it was more common from municipal agences. I wonder if this new mesure is to replace the wire bull shit!
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  15. willh

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    I wonder if I can get passed without my baffles :lol3
    I can see this having the opposite effect, the fifteenth of March rolled around and all kinds of people were out with whatever because they were no longer required to have snow tires, sand and salt inches deep at intersections and another foot of snow on the way but the law said... These people, most of them would have waited for better weather/conditions pre snow tire law. I can see people now knowing what the laws about noise being, going out and getting as close to the limit as they can, that otherwise might have left things quiet.
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    I believe this will be the case as well. I overheard some harley guys mentioning a group buy on the sound meter...

    Thank you SAAQ for making thing worse for bikers again. I think this might be their mandat though... :lol3:lol3:lol3
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  17. Dan Alexander

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    If it's aimed at the crazy pirates with the straight pipes I'm all for it. I hate those fackers with a passion. One drove by the house this afternoon while I was in the garage with the door open, straight pipes and a radio blaring over the noise from the pipes :asshat
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  18. SebRain

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    I'm all for it, even though I don't have a bike anymore it would not change my opinion of this pilot project. They have noise restrictions at the tracks, it is just normal that they have some on public roads as well.

    The track at Calabogie Motorsports Park has a mandatory noise restriction of 92dB or lesser... Link here.

    The pilot project calls for maximums of 92dB at lower RPMs and 100dB at higher RPMs... So, if your street steed is louder than a racebike, there is little hope for you!

    I know I won't be worried!:deal
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  19. outbacktaz

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    It's kind of funny, as I spent the last Summer roaming the roads in La Belle Province, and never got pulled over by the PP. And I rode it like I stole it, as it seems to be the only way to drive, or ride, there!! I even rode blind into a radar trap on Autoroute 30 by the 20 at about 135kph, and they let me by with smirks on their faces!!

    And you guys worry about being pulled over for the noise treatment?? The only time I got tested for the noise law in Québec was when I went for a track day in Saint-Eustache!! It had to be lower than 92db...

    As someone else pointed out, the new law is probably aimed at the road tractors, the Hardly Ridables...!!

    Oh and here in Alberta, it costs me $75 to get a driver's licence for 5 years, and $45 a year for my motorcycle plate, a KTM 990 Adventure... And the insurance are cheaper than what it used to be back in Québec, back in 2002...!!
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  20. Steve G.

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    Gosh, how else are they going to pay for govt. supplied day care? Govt. paid,,,,everything.

    BTW, no sympathy here for open pipe attention whores. Pay up!!!
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