Quebec's winter tire law

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Attico, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. C-Stain

    C-Stain Long timer

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  2. Vikingtazz

    Vikingtazz Will ride for food.

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    Heidenau makes winter motorcycle tires.
    I recall hearing that they are available from Pete's Superbike in Montreal.

    The Quebec winter tire regulation will be changed next season; all winter tires need to have that little mountain/snowflake symbol or else they do no meet criteria.

    "Real" winter tires are made of a rubber compound that performs best under 6 degrees celcius.
    What most people don't realize is that above this temperature the tires performance declines greatly, and they're unsafe (way too soft) at summer temps.
    A lot of Quebecers run winter tires all year round.
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  3. Motoriley

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    Even before the special snowflake emblem takes effect Quebec had very specific wording as to what constitutes a winter a tire. Last year when I checked the Heidenaus didn't have the correct markings to be legal. M+S is not a legal mark even now. Looked into it last winter and even had a guy from the Regie involved in making the rules contact me. So far no legal tires that I could source. The one grey area is the use of studs.

    From the gov site.

    What is the definition of winter tires?

    Tires on which one of the following inscriptions appear: Alaska, Arctic, A/T or AT, AT/S, AT-S , Blizzard, Cresta, Ice, INSA T1, INSA T2, INSA TT770, LT, Nordic, Snow (but not mud and snow), Stud, Studdable, Studded, Studless, TS, Ultra grip , Ultratraction or Winter, or the icon representing a mountain with a superimposed snowflake.

    Or

    Tires that are equipped with studs and used in accordance with the Regulation respecting the use of non-skid devices on the tires of certain road vehicles.
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    Fuck 'em!
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  5. Pete O Static

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    I don't understand why people complain about the registration fees in Quebec. Yeah the plate is expensive because it carries insurance. My plate is about $500 per year compared to about $50 in Ontario. However my insurance premium is only $200 compared to the $900 I paid in Ontario. So I am actually paying less than I was in Ontario. Sportbikes? Yeah some morons are paying north of 5 grand a year for insurance in Ontario.

    As for the tire regulation, I don't have an issue when the state is taking control of skyrocketing insurance premiums and frankly, I am tired of seeing fucktards upside down in the ditch while driving 50 over the limit in a snowstorm sportin a set of bald all seasons. Happens whenever it snows on the 401. Their stupidity costs everyone. So yes, it is legislating to the lowest common denominator but that is not something limited to only Quebec. It IS unfortunately, the Canadian way.

    I recently read a series of articles where riders from Ontario were bitching about bikes being excluded from HOV lanes. They actually lobbied the government claiming that a bike is always at a minimum 50% capacity so should automatically qualify for HOV lane privileges. This was quickly dismissed, no doubt because every Porsche and Pick up owner would claim the same.

    My point is, not everything in life seems fair. Suck it up and wear a helmet.
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  6. skysailor

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    A note to our Quebec neighbours.
    I just got back for a trip to Mexico. A vacation. No bike. Just a week to kick back and relax with my wife and daughter.
    For the last couple of years, I've done the same thing in Cuba.
    I've noticed something I find disturbing.

    When folks from Quebec visit these places, they are COMPLETE ASS HOLES!!!

    Now, I've spent quite a bit of time in Quebec. You are pretty nice folks.

    So what gives when you travel? The people of Cuba and Mexico speak SPANISH! Surely you know that? I've seen French Canadians be so fucking IGNORANT to waiters, cab drivers, and hotel staff, simply because they don't speak FRENCH??? News flash......they DO for the most part speak English. For the most part, so do YOU! So, why not cut them a break? If you don't speak THEIR language......at least try and be polite to them....or you could use English?

    Dont take MY word for this. Ask ANY Cuban or Mexican cab driver who they like to deal with LEAST.......they'll always say French Canadians! Every time.

    In Mexico the tourists are Canadian, American and European......pretty much all of whom speak English or Spanish. In Cuba, they are Canadian or European. Same story.

    Knock it off!
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  7. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Do they have winter motorcycle tires in Mexico? :lol3
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  8. skysailor

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    At least their business signs can be in the language if the owner's choice. No Language Police.
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  9. Attico

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    Attico, you have to see a couple of these ass holes berate the living shit out of some poor taxi driver, who doesn't make in a year, what these pricks make in week........because he doesn't speak FRENCH! I saw it almost every day! Almost ashamed to admit I'm a Canadian.
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    awesome.....so the end of this discussion is that there really is no winter tire choice to satisfy the law in Quebec?
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  12. Motoriley

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    No motorcycle tire that I know of. Car tires are no problem.


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  13. Garnotte

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    That's beacause we don't learn english here in Quebec. Almost 75% of the population doesn't know a word in english. We have some english course when we are young at school, like 1 or 2 hours a week, but that's not enough!!

    To give you an idea....here, radio station MUST play 65% of french content, this is a law!!! There is some lobby who try to make Wallmart, Second cup, footlocker etc.. change their name because it is in english!!! That's crazy!

    That so sad, I'm realy not proud of my province.
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  14. skysailor

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    The rest of Canada got about an hour a day of French in school, then dropped it as soon as we could. Funny thing, when I travel in Quebec, I always enjoy my interaction with the Francophones. They just don't seem to know how to behave when they travel. As with learning French in Ontario, and the Quebec LAW that all education must be in French, and the language LAW......fastest way to make someone resent something is to stuff it down their throats.
    If you guys could use English freely (like in "Italian" restraints?) and we could learn French because we wanted to (lots of great French works of literature etc.) we'd all be a lot happier as a "team" rather than all our political hissing and and spitting that goes on today. We both have politicians to thank. Aurevoir.
    Lyle
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  15. Garnotte

    Garnotte Been here awhile

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    Our prime minister Pauline Marois can't speak in english....:dunno That ridiculous....
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  16. skysailor

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    Can't, or won't? If she can't speak English, that's just sad. If you are going to be a political party leader, and you are Canadian, you should be courteous enough to speak English AND French! Cheers.
    Lyle
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  17. Gator8

    Gator8 He did what in his cup?

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    Ummmm, you do mean "Premier", right? :evil
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  18. 250senuf

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    NO, Quebec considers itself as a nation within a nation. Hence "prime minister" instead of (mere) premier. :huh
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  19. skysailor

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    Actually, a Premier can and often is referred to as "Prime Minister". He's the "First" Minister, and therefore "Prime". Don't take the title to seriously. It's the same thing, with a different name.
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  20. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Hard to take any title of any politician seriously. The game of politics seems to be getting played more and more like it is in the US. Many politician are not there to serve the nation, their electorate or the noble greater good, rather they have a self serving agenda that creeps in about the time they are elected.

    Number 1 goal of any political party. Get elected
    Number 2, get re-elected.

    By themselves not terrible goals, how else can you bring your ideas to fruition. The problem is the political parties forgot what comes after that and every promise, photo op, sound bit, question period, handshake, baby kiss is geared towards re-election.

    Anyone want to talk senate reform?
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