Question about City Nav and Basecamp

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by TxTiger, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. TxTiger

    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    I just got my Montana 650. I'm a first time user of any GPS. I've loaded City Nav from the website as it was a newer version of my cd. A couple of questions;
    1) does city nav also run on my pc? I know I got it loaded on my gps unit, but don't see how to run it on my pc if it allows you to.
    2) basecamp. Where do I get this software? My unit has no informational instructions on how to do this with it in paper form, and I don't see anything on Garmin's site that answers my questions.

    Thanks for any input.
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  2. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    http://www.garmin.com/en-US/shop/downloads/basecamp is free
    basecamp works by accessing the maps directly loaded on your unit (attached to computer w/ usb). the older map source needed those maps loaded on your computer as well as on your gps to work with them (create routes etc.)

    download & install basecamp. plug in your gps and it will find your maps.
    takes a bit of time the 1st time loading.
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  3. mcnut

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    I also think you can run the update again and a "setting" or "advanced" (or a similar button, lower right? before the download begins) offers three options.

    GPS only
    Computer only
    GPS & Computer

    In your case select computer only. Takes awhile.

    Bruce
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  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    You can only install CNNA on to your computer if you purchased the DVD. You noted that you purchased the downloaded version of CNNA so you will have to do as eakins described and use your Montana USB connected so BaseCamp can read the CNNA map from the Montana.
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  5. TxTiger

    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    I did purchase the dvd but a prompt suggested loading from the website. Did I screw up?

    If it is more advantageous to also have city nav on your pc, I could delete the download version and load it from the dvd if it will allow me to do that. If not I could contact garmin and see what I can do. I would think it would be good to also have it loaded on the pc so you don't have to connect the device until you were ready to transfer your data. Any recommendations here?
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I little confusing... If you purchased the DVD and installed it, THEN you got a prompt to download the latest VERSION, that would be understandable. If you purchased the DVD and then somehow purchased another copy of CNNA via Download then you are kind of screwed - you have to copies of the same map set assigned to the same device.

    Since we aren't there to see what you did, I would call Garmin Product Support. They will help you figure out what your options are.
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  7. TxTiger

    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    Hope this doesn't double post as I sent a response and got an error message.

    I got a prompt recommending to download the website newer version before installation, but had to use my dvd code to download the maps. I will call Garmin tomorrow to discuss it with them.

    Thanks for all the info, the help/advice is greatly appreciated.
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  8. mcnut

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    Perhaps my install was different, it was a purchased one time update to CN which was preloaded on my Nuvi 550, I do not own a copy of CN on DVD. I was somewhat surprised when the options were listed.

    :scratch

    Things that could have made a difference unique to my install;

    1) Not a Montana, an older Nuvi 550.
    2) This was a CN update, of a CN update which already resided on my PC (from when the GPS + Computer option was available).
    2) I do own an old copy of CitySelect on CD but it is not upgradeable.
    3) In addition to BaseCamp I also have MapSource installed, MapSource can't read the maps from the unit so maps are installed on the PC.

    Sorry if my post was for most was misleading.

    Bruce
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  9. TxTiger

    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    I hate to be such a novice, but I just disconnected the gps from my pc, launched basecamp and I can see the map the same as when I had the gps connected. Therefore, it must be loaded on the pc also. I guess since I used the unlock code for the dvd, Garmin recognized the download as a dvd. Does this make sense? If so it is helpful information for others who go through the install process with a dvd. That is, if they choose a newer version through the download Garmin still gives you option of viewing it on your gps or your pc.

    I will verify this with Garmin tomorrow, just wanted to update what I had found.
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  10. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I would try this:

    Run the Garmin Express update again without your GPS connected. Select Advanced Options.

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    use the dropdown menu to select "Computer" since that is what didn't happen the first time. Next calendar quarter or whenever the next map update comes out, have your GPS connected and select "Device & Computer" as shown below so it will do both places.

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  11. TxTiger

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    Emoto, thanks for the detailed instructions (I definitely need them), but given the info I posted just above yours, it is on the pc also. Now I just need to learn to use it. I'm playing around with it now to get an understanding of the basics.
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    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    OK guys. Now I need to import a gpx file that is on my hard drive into basecamp. Most of the help info discusses transferring between devices, but I don't see how to get a gpx file into basecamp from a download. Wow. are there good tutorials on this?
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Read the Help file...

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    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    Thanks. That got it. Greatly appreciated.
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    TxTiger Been here awhile

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    I am going to download Google Earth to get the GE view, does the free version work as good as the pro edition for use in basecamp? Any advantage with the pro using it through basecamp?
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    I don't know about Pro, but I have been using the free GE and BaseCamp together for a year or more to good effect. Sometimes I create a track on GE, save it as *.kml or *.kmz, then import it into BC, tweak it, and put it in one or another list.

    Or, I take the track I created in BC, use "View in Google Earth", and check to see whether the track seems to correspond to an actual visible 4x4 road.

    I have found many instances where the roads and trails shown on various Topos from which I created them do NOT appear on GE! If that is the case, I assume that I'm going to get into a real adventure if I try to ride what I created!:eek1 Not really interested in doing that anymore at my age.:rofl

    Many times, however, I am able to see in GE that I need to modify the track or route slightly to make life easier and for that it is worth it's weight in gold!
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    that works too.
    it needs to be downloaded & installed if not so:
    http://software.garmin.com/en-US/express.html
    Express replaced Garmin's older update program that i'm spacing the name now. Some people have said they go back and forth between the 2 as updates can be finicky on one or the other. Any way that is what Garmin wants everyone to be using these days. Garmin sure confuses people for sure. Like McNut i have a Nuvi 550 that i bought on deal in 2011 and updated to the latest CN at the time. I have since come up with the latest CN .img file and use Basecamp to access and create routes. It works with a USB 2.0 on the Nuvi. Not possible with a 60csx and USB 1.1. That's just painfull to load.

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  18. eakins

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    Pro is for GIS work & other advanced features. I'm guessing you're not in GIS line of work if you're a new GPS user. :D The free version is what everyone uses. I use mine all the time to verify and create rides.
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    +1. This is exactly what I do in planning rides.
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  20. Cattledog1969

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    I'm glad I found this thread. My question about Base Camp is how come it looks really hoaky, cartoonish and not very detailed when it comes to routes and road either? Jagged straight lines were there would be curves on a Google map. Anyone know??
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