Question for those of you who have both Old School and New School

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by dlew, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. dlew

    dlew Daypass Adventurer

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    I'm pretty new to the whole idea of having an old school bike. When I bought my 12GS I was looking for state of the art :huh but now I find myself drawn to the Airheads.

    In my other interests I've had both older and newer trucks, bicycles, fishing rods, cameras, etc. and they all of their place and their own allure.

    But the GS is such a damn versatile, fun bike, and really pretty reliable :huh that I can't think of an opportunity where I wouldn't want to ride it. And specific to motorcycle riding I want safest ride--one that stops well, doesn't dive, and handles well in most conditions.

    So I ask those of you who have both an Old School and a New School bike, an airhead and an oilhead, when, where, and how do you choose to ride each?
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  2. Hennepinboy

    Hennepinboy Have battery will travel.

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    Solo I ride the Airhead R100GS, two up the Oilhead R1150RT. Time does not matter the R100GS, if I have to be there quick the R1150RT. Warm the R100GS, cold the R1150RT running heated clothing. Or which ever bike is easist to get out of the garage at the time.
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  3. Boojum

    Boojum I Miss the PartyBoss

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    Good questions dlew. As a person with the following bikes (99-1100GS, 92-GSPD Airhead, and a 75 R90/6 Airhead) I use this method as a guide. When I'm headed out west (Co-WY-MT) I like to use my Oilhead 99-GS, because it turns less RPM's at highway speeds. I (so far) am using the PD, as my intermediate bike for around here in the southeast, because it turns higher RPM's at speed, and has a bit less protection vs. the GS1100. I have only had the R90 for a few months now, and am not really sure of it's duties in the coming year. I REALLY like riding it, and plan on riding it over to NC for the Spring Fling Old School Rally in April. Thats a 250-300 mile'r, one way.
    Now, many people will say,........Hell Boojum, these Airheads love to spin RPM's, and will run 5000 PLUS R's all day long. I'm sure they will, however at this time, I still like pampering my bikes, and still not wanting to do that quite yet.:lol3 :lol3 The Old School Bikes make me feel like I'm younger, on an older bike, and back in the 70's again. That's my .02 cents on how and why I ride my bikes. For What It's Worth!


    Boojum!
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  4. dduelin

    dduelin Prone To Wander, Lord, I Feel It

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    They are the same only different to borrow a Yogism. I ride the airhead on the same roads as the ST1300 only with a different attitude. I generally ride 150-400 mile day rides and my mood or if and who I am riding with determine which bike I take. I appreciate that each handles and brakes differently from the other and part of the allure is riding each as well as possible. Now if I am riding off on a multi-day tour or need to carry a bunch of stuff then I usually choose the right tool for the job. If I just plan on a putt around the block after work the naked airhead gets the nod. On vintage bike night the Honda ST isn't quite the ticket either.

    I think an airhead will make you appreciate just how well simple and elegant designs work even decades later....

    Dave
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  5. friar mike

    friar mike IronButtGruver

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    In my shop I have had alot of riders on airhead's because of relieablity and can be fixed anywhere ( no computer's , no fuel injection ) and thats a consteration on a long ride like a around the world ride. but I have both I mostly ride my R1150GS and soon to ride ( I just got it ) my R65 mostly for fun.
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  6. kbasa

    kbasa It's good to think. Super Moderator

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    Nice days, nowhere to go, just out for a putt putt - R100

    Nice days, some distance, riding in traffic, stuff to do, carrying both of us, want to haul ass, want to ride some dirt or such - one of the modern bikes.

    Don't ask how I decide which one of those to ride. :lol3
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  7. Gezerbike

    Gezerbike Hey Rocky...........

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    Like the others have replied, my Oilhead is what I take when I want to make time, ride two up, weather is cold or I want to chase someone thru the twisties. Faster, more comfortable, better brakes and all around protection. It is more complicated, but none of my Oilheads have ever had a reliability question. They work. The R 100 GS doen't stop as fast, will dive on braking, no ABS and weather protection could be better, not to mention an electrical system that leads alot to be desired. But it really puts a smile on my face to ride. I started out 15 years ago on an R 100 RT, and have had about 6 or 7 BMW's since then , including a K bile and an F 650, so I have pretty much had them all, and I am happy to be back where I started. They just sem to have alot of character.
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  8. Lurking Luddite

    Lurking Luddite Been here awhile

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    Insurance being an expensive issue in Canada, I only keep one older ride insured. It has been my R69S for the last couple of years. For short trips, solo riding, coffee runs and errands I love it. The R1150gs gets the nod for most riding and if riding with with other bikes, ringing out an old bike when everone else is on newer, bigger, better stopping machines I do not find fun.
    But purring along on an older machine at a relaxed pace cannot be beat.
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  9. hogmolly

    hogmolly Dude

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    My decision process is pretty simple....miles/day required and weather expected. I like taking trips on my airheads but I tend to plan lower miles and wait for favorable weather. I could give a shit about my oilheads. They do receive good maintenance but I will ride them in both hell and high water.

    I like working on my airheads as well. I find it relaxing and don't mind if the job stretches into days/weeks. The oilheads are also pretty simple but everything takes more time.
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  10. jtwind

    jtwind Wisconsin Airhead

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    What's an oilhead? JT
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  11. honcho

    honcho Barley Adventurer

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    i had an airhead (r100/7) and an oilhead (r1150gs adv) at the same time for a while... sold the oilhead. those things are a blast... it beat the pants off my airhead in almost every aspect, but... there's nothing like cruising around on that /7. sure, it doesn't handle as well, accelerate as well, stop as well, hold as much fuel, have a sixth gear or cool luggage, keep my hands warm, keep the wind off me, or get me to where i'm going as fast. wait... why did i sell that thing? oh yeah... it was expensive! for the price i sold my gs for i bought a real off road bike (dr350) and that /7, and could still buy a brand new KLR if i wanted to. trying to decide which bike was not an easy decision, but if you're drawn towards the airheads, go for it... if it doesn't suit you, i'm sure you'll have no problem letting it go for what you paid for it. you'll figure out what to ride when.

    i sure do miss that gs though... those things are unbelievable. the guy who bought it from me called me the other day and said "this thing rides like a fucking magic carpet"... and thanked me again. something tells me i'll have another oilhead before too long.
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  12. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    +1, I used to own an oilhead.... :evil
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  13. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    Awesome. :thumb
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  14. sdpc2

    sdpc2 Just another Rally Rat

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    I have the exact same bikes and almost the same riding style! Although, the miles per year are starting to sway towards the airhead...


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  15. Cobbmtn

    Cobbmtn Occasionally audacious

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    You just got to have both!

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  16. dlew

    dlew Daypass Adventurer

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    I thank you, Hennepinboy, Boojum, dduelin, friar mike, kbasa, gezerbike, Lurking Luddite, jtwind, honcho, solo lobo, datchew, sdpc2, and cobbmtn, all of you for your thoughtful, enlightening replies.

    Nice picture cobbmtn.

    I'm starting to get it.
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  17. jtwind

    jtwind Wisconsin Airhead

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    Don't remember where I saw this quote/ sig. line, heck it may have been on Adv riders. But it says it all for my concept of motorcycling.

    " . . . a little bit of gas, a bike you can work with the tools on board, blue sky and a day to kill, if you need more you probably wouldn't like riding with me."


    This guy was a genius. JT
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  18. Gringo

    Gringo simple by nature

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    I've had my airhead PD for 14 years and can't imagine ever parting with it; just picked up a 1150GS last fall for 2-up and longer distance runs. So far I still prefer the airhead for daily commutes and slower local riding - I've had it so long I've learned how to make it run like a swiss watch, which counts more in those conditions - but that may change once I hone my OVAD skills enough to get the oilhead running that smoothly too. As others have already said, each bike evokes a different attitude in me - on the airhead I'm a zen master, on the oilhead I'm in a big hurry even if I've got nowhere to go - it's just so damned capable that I always want to push it harder. Both are a joy to ride.

    Contrary to what a few others have said, however, even tho the oilhead has a big Cee Baileys screen, the airhead with the parabellum is my choice for cold days - I can commute in 35F temps wearing the same outfit I wear year-round with just a heavier sweater and silk scarf, and get to work feeling perfectly comfortable. When I ride the oilhead in 45F temps I need more layers and still want a warm drink when I arrive! I think it's cuz I'm stretched out more on the oilhead, more frontal area - can't imagine the heat off the airhead motor can make that big a difference. Or maybe I just need to slow down on the oilhead...
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  19. AnnieGS

    AnnieGS Namasté, bitches!

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    After getting the 1150GS, my once-daily-driver '87 R80 has been assigned to lighter duty. I'll ride it to work and take it out for moderate weekend breakfast runs. I think I am more visible on the GS because of it's size and appearance (I think there are about three of 'em in my town) so if I'm feeling concerned about visibility I'm incvlined to take the oilhead. The GS is the true carver and mile eater of the pair - I'll take it out for touring and longer, friskier weekend rides. As Gringo also mentioned, I take pride in being able to keep the airhead in exceptional tune. The OVAD for the GS isn't difficult but I am still working out the kinks in my TB synch techniques. They both have ~90K on the OD.

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  20. elmoreman

    elmoreman takin' a break, boss

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    With airheads, its all about character and the relationship you build with the bike. Its like using your dad's old leather briefcase, or a fully functional, aesthetically pleasing family heirloom. I hope someday to give my g/s to my son OR daughter, whoever I think will appreciate it more. It is one of the few posessions I have that I truly value.

    And my nuts...of course.
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