R1100GS: Anyone w/ dual or twin headlight?

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  1. PaperBoy

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    The TT w/ two halogen bulbs didn't seem to be any better than the stock set up before I installed the relay harness which gets its power from the battery in a more direct manner. Some people like the stock set up better than the dual TT set up. Others say they like the TT better. I found them both lacking when it came to riding at night, especially during times when wildlife is more likely to be on the road. I really needed to see better while my light was on low beam.

    I didn't try the HID in the original housing. I bought a kit, but never installed it. I don't believe the stock headlight housing was designed to use HID and I thought I'd try this first. Some people swear by the HID conversion in their stock headlight shell. I think a relay harness powering the stocker would make a big difference in light output too.

    There have been different TT dual headlight set ups for the R11GS sold over the years,not all are metal and glass according to what I've read. Some have projectors and some are HID direct from Touratech and they are very expensive new in my book and I'm glad I tried this first. TT only seems to list a couple of options now days.

    To be seen better by cagers I have Motolights with amber bulbs mounted on my brake calipers. These make a nice triangle and the amber bulbs really seem to grab cager's attention. Might actually cut fog too, but haven't tried them in fog yet.

    Lonestar seems very happy with his Wunderlich Dual Headlight set up and has a good post on here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715933
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    TT revamp kit.
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    Like the look, especially the big lenses that fill the rectangular space under the screen. Mine are nearly as large and fill most of the original area. I'm not as big a fan of the two small headlight lenses that some TT dual headlight systems have. They kind of look like something that is more homemade.

    Not that homemade is necessarily bad, I've seen some great retrofits of twin headlights from something like a Honda. I hear a lot about Twin Headlight Ernie, an inmate here.
    http://twinheadlighternie.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/4326355_rhKnxG#!i=253733093&k=UjDGU

    Lonestar posted a diagram with dimensions of the Wunderlich aluminum plate that that systems dual headlights are mounted into. Someone could take this, make a plate and perhaps add their won reflectors and bulbs.

    I had thought about trying my hand at using a round Honda headlight that included both high and low beams (two separate bulbs in one reflector). This one wasn't sealed beam so you could replace bulbs. I can't remember what bike/s they were off - I had all that info saved, but must have purged it from my computer because I can't locate it now. A well incorporated single old-school round headlight, with replaceable halogens would look cool too. I was thinking something sort of like this, but with the beak and original forks:

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    I dont understand...so does TT have different size lenses? small and large?
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    As I've said, TT only seems to sell two types of dual headlight set ups right now.

    This one (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/...ghts-R1100GS?gclid=CN_t_dT9trYCFaF_QgodSFwA6Q) with small lens projectors:

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    And this one which looks like it has larger lenses (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/...Beam-R1100GS?gclid=CLbEhov9trYCFW3ZQgodZzUAmA ) with the DE Projector on one side and Xenon HID on the other:

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    I believe the bottom one is the set that comes with TT Revamp fairing, as Krellheat posted above. Here's the total Revamp look, pretty cool.

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    In the past Touratech has had different models of Dual Headlights. Some I've seen with smaller lenses than the ones on mine. I've also read that some of the TT set ups were made with plastic lenses and had plastic reflectors. Mine are made w/ glass lenses and metal reflectors and were purchased used off eBay. I'm no expert on what other people have, just know what I've read and seen pictured on AdvRider and other sites. Things evolve, Wunderlich says their dual headlights are the third model for the R11GS.
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    Obviously TT made changes over the years to their Dual Headlight Units.

    Here's some additional TT Dual Headlight info from UKGSer, it's kind of dated, but simon thomas talks about warping parts of his TT dual unit by using higher wattage Halogens in his because his set up had plastic lenses, reflectors and other parts, whereas mine was made with metal and glass. He replaced the warped parts with Honda CBR CFR 400 parts w/ 100mm lenses.

    Richie says "...word of warning though it ain't twin headlights its a single piece of glass moulded into two rounds with twin headlamps inside." That nothing like mine, definitely two separate headlights, which sounds more like Simon's.

    You can read the posts here: http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44512
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    Non HID alternative to the TT kit. The appear to be the same housing used in the TT kit. You would need to build a mount and support for them.
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    Rallylights has brackets as well.
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  10. Graminal95

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    Its funny that this subject has just resurfaced. I have been working on a dual 90mm bi-halogen for sometime but only made real progress today. Here is a photo of the initial mounting. There is a little clearance issue with the speedo drive cable but I think I have that sorted. It should provide a bit more then twice the stock heading output.:D

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    I guess one has to join to see the pics?
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    Awesome job Gram! Please show us some pics of light at night when done!

    Krell... Thanks for that, I was just looking at those. I bought the Hella FF 200 if memory serves, put those on my then R12GS, and they were way way better than the stock R12GS lights. I bet those you show, placed where the Square OEM light is, would be just perfect.

    Hey Guys, I was wondering about that big square light. Does anyone know if this light would fit in the OEM hole? here> http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=2509 or here >http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4794

    or here>http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=64

    these should work... what do you all think? http://www.rallylights.com/Hella_200mm_H4_Headlamps.aspx

    plus there are many more. Ralley Lights rocks!
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    Yes, I hadn't thought of that. They have different levels of membership. I joined for free, but there's also a paid membership to UKGSer that gives you more privileges.
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    thanks Paperboy... so can one still join for free and see the pics?
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    I believe so, been so long since I joined. There aren't a whole lot of pictures on this particular thread. I'll try and post here, hope that isn't a no no. You should try joining anyway just for all the great info available on our bikes. They refer to AdvRider posts a lot and there's lots of sharing between the two forums. The UK guys are great people to ask advice from too. If you do a Google Search on Convert R1100GS to dual headlights you'll find a couple of their members are working on some of their own projects, however they seem to peter out in 2010.

    http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240975

    From the other thread, Post #3 Photo:

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    is a side by side of a black R11GS bike w/ and w/out the TT Dual Headlight. He really liked the TT and said he got twice the light, I didn't find that until I installed a relay harness to take more advantage of the lights actual potential. Like I said, this mod would probably help with the stocker too. I've read that many people install a direct relay harness on all their bikes. I'm thinking of doing the same on my old Chevy Pickup one day too.

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    Unfortunately he doesn't have pictures of his modification to the Honda lights, just talks about it.

    Post 21 photo:

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    Looks like an old TT Catalog pic. Looks a lot like mine. Not near my bike now or I'd take a better head-on photo.

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    Don't know who makes the one in the Post 23, might be one of the earlier versions of the Wunderlich Dual (according to Post 24.)
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    wunderich version

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    here you go http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcycle/8230010.html

    Part Number: 8230010
    Price: $335.00
    Not currently in stock.
    Typical delivery: 2-3 weeks.

    R1100GS: Wunderlich Dual Headlight Install and Review (w lots o' pics)
    A forum just for this headlight http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715933
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    Okay, if you join UKGSer, you will probably be able to see the photos from this rider who put Honda CBR 400 headlights into his Touratech Dual Headlight frame. For those that are handy*, you could probably design your own frame, like I said, LoneStar put the dimensions and a diagram of the Wunderlich front plate on his GSpot thread on converting to W'lich set up. Here's the UK thread:

    http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143129


    * "If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." Red Green
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    Here's a photo of my bike w/ the TT Dual Headlights, an R1150 beak and blue & white tank. Also has the TT oil color guard form a R1150GS. I've got Hella fogs (halogens), PIAA 540s and Motolights on the brake calipers with for Auxiliary lighting. The Hellas were great for filling in for the high beam before I put on the relay harness for the dual headlights. The dual headlights were just as bad as the stocker (until I did the harness upgrade) and I was straining to see in the dark. The PIAAs are great for offroad and the amber Motolights make a great triangle pattern with the headlights to give my bike visibility.

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    Speaking of twins (headlights and boxers), that's my Goddaughter, she's one of a pair, but we didn't have enough people to wrangle them into a pose with one in each pannier.
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    PB... very cool! Why do you think the harness made a difference... the old one did not supply enough voltage?
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