R1150GSA Pinging

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by GS-Jake, Dec 18, 2006.

  1. Core10metal

    Core10metal Been here awhile

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    I have 2012 GSA with 18000 and I get pinging when I work the throttle. Dealer predictably told me its normal and his bike does it too. But he has also said that with every problem I've had. I found that for some reason when I wear ear plugs the problem goes away :p
  2. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    Core 10? I used to work in Chicago where a number of downtown buildings were faced in Core ten. The concrete at the base of these buildings also took on the same patina as the building itself.
  3. fred flintstone

    fred flintstone Been here awhile

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    Roger, Mr. C, et al,
    Quick update here, the AFR meter I had ordered turns out to be the wrong one for my model PCIII, and the right one is NLA. So I have shut down experimentation on the GSA, spending the waning hours of this riding season tuning the PCIII on my FJR1300 (now improved with loud pipes, I feel so much safer).

    Roger if you could maybe make a recommendation? And that would be what is the base configuration of the LC1 or other Innoavative products needed for basic data acq capabilities? It turns out the general state of knowledge of PCIII FJR ECU interaction is as pitiful as the GS, even more so, and some actual data would be good. On those models you disconnect the O2 sensor completely so that plug is just sitting there waiting for a wideband...

    Thanks to everyone involved for a great discussion.

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  4. roger 04 rt

    roger 04 rt Long timer

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    AJ,

    Since I've got the GS-911 for the R1150, it pairs fairly well the the LC-1. The GS-911 can log data points for everything the Motronic tracks, about 14 items including RPM, TPS, Spark, Injection and all the sensors. Then I use the LC-1 to log realtime O2 data. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have the GS-911.

    The LC-1 comes with a Bosch LSU 4.2 O2 sensor, Wideband Controller, AFR Gauge, serial cable (need to buy serial to USB cable), calibration switch and LED status lamp. All you really need is a cable to connect to your ECU O2 input if you want Closed Loop and some very basic junction box to terminate and wire the cables together (there's a thread called Wideband O2 Installation Overview). It also comes with AFR logging software. So basically you buy the LC-1 and a $5 plastic junction box and apart from the wiring job, that is everything.
  5. Mr. Canoehead

    Mr. Canoehead Taste Gunnels!

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    I have the same LC-1 and was wondering if the datalogger is worth the extra $$. I might be better off just buying a GS911.

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  6. fred flintstone

    fred flintstone Been here awhile

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    Yeah I did not realize the GS911 was doing all the heavy lifting on the DA side on Roger's RT. I may have to negotiate further with Santa.
  7. roger 04 rt

    roger 04 rt Long timer

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    I owned my LC-1 for a few months before I realized the datalogger for O2/AFR was an integral part of it. You just install the free logworks software, attach a cable from the LC-1 to a PC and you're good to go.

    Even if you don't have a GS-911, you can learn a great deal about how your bike is running by logging the AFR.
  8. GS-Jake

    GS-Jake All about the Bike

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    I started this thread 6 years ago almost to the day and it now has 31,500 views and still going. I didn't realise that this was such an on going problem.

    I've moved on, not everyone else has. Unfortunately that 1150 is sold, still have the Ducati, looking at a new 1200 this year I think

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  9. JohnGS1100

    JohnGS1100 Been here awhile

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    I want ask a very important question :

    Can i use monotronic MA 2.4 (from 1100s) on my gs 1100 ? The original one is monotronic 2.2

    Thanks
  10. GS Addict

    GS Addict Pepperfool

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    Pinouts are different, in a word - no
  11. JohnGS1100

    JohnGS1100 Been here awhile

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    Thanks

    The ecu from 1100 rs is MA 2.2 (1993 model). But i think that the rs has not catalytic.

    Can i use it for my catalytic gs1100 ?
  12. Poolside

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    Not as a plug-n-play swap, the connector pinouts are different. It's possible though. Some number of the 35 pins in the 1100 ECU connector must be relocated to match the 1150 ECU.

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  13. JohnGS1100

    JohnGS1100 Been here awhile

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    Thanks. Anyone who has the SCHEMATICS diagram from both ECU ?
  14. Poolside

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    PM your email address.


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  15. Steptoe

    Steptoe steptoe

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    It's not.
    It's just the same couple of people who always have the problems. :lol3
  16. Poolside

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    <BR>Way to empathize, Neil.&#8194;:lol3


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  17. roger 04 rt

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    I hear you.

    Pinging may not be much of an on-going problem but there seem to be lots of lingering effects of lean-running in the Oilhead fleet. It seems that most owners accept them "just the way they are". My personal favorite symptoms are, "keep the RPMs up, Oilheads love 4-5000RPM", or " ... rarely in 6th gear below 70". With as little as 3-4% more fuel, the Boxer motor is transformed.

    Although Lamda shifters can be bought for $160 (Innovate Motorsports LC-1), when someone makes a Nightrider-type Lambda-shifter, then I think there'll be a wave of interest in what these devices can do. Here's a good comparison table: comparison of different lambda settings.
  18. Poolside

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    That 'lambda shifter' is fantasy.


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    Mr. Canoehead Taste Gunnels!

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    If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!

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  20. roger 04 rt

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    Hi Jim,

    Happy Holidays to you too. May you have a prosperous New Year.

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