R1200CLC Project. Yeah, I know...

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  1. JimVonBaden

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    The current plan is NO chrome when done, though I may leave a couple of accent pieces. Definitely not rechroming anything.
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    Spent the morning starting deconstruction.
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    Then I swapped my heal/toe shifter with a normal one and installed it on his bike.
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    That was all my knee could take. I just had surgery on Wednesday.

    by the way, if you know anyone with an 1150 twin spark that wants chrome valve covers, I am looking to swap.
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    Rough cut of the blank plate to hide where the factory mirror was. I added the logo from the side case for fun, but it could be blank or with a BMW roundel.

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    Actually that has potential. The black look really sleeks up the bike a lot! Though, and this is just me, the heavy looking front fender, fat front tire and small front wheel diameter emphasizes too much "foward" weight bias to the look. If possible, use a larger diameter front wheel, maybe a blacked rim spoked wheel, and a more trim front fender shape, and the visual weight bias moves rearward.
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    I agree. I will likely keep the stock 16" wheel, but the wheels are going black, and I am going to use a much narrower tire on the front. Ill take a look at the fender, I think it could be made sleeker as well.
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    Could the front wheel/tire of the first released R1200C be mounted in place of the fat front end on the R1200CLC? One thing I also recall about the CLC is the much heavier looking, wider stance fork legs of the CLC versus the stock C. BMW tried to "cruise-ize" the front end of the CLC to go with the Harley style cruiser look. But it only looks ponderous and heavy to me.
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    It feels ponderous and heavy. I'm not sure if I could transplant an early C front end to fit, especially with the fairing mounts mounted to the forks. But I am making the front as light as possible, while still maintaining the look!
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    I give you credit for trying! The CLC is a tough visual to start with. This, I think is one of the better looking R12C models
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    The front end is light looking, almost somewhat "chopperish" with the light nimble look in front and the heavy look to the rear. Kind of like the "Billy Bike" of Easy Rider, which I always liked better than Capt America on looks alone.

    Could the CLC fairing be mounted solid to the frame instead of to the forks/handlebar? Maybe it could be slightly positioned better to accent the lines and fill that gap to the fuel tank, similar to the frame mounted fairing on a Road Glide.
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    I agree, I would have preferred the C instead of the CL, but you get what comes along.

    I am sure it is possible to mount the fairing to the frame instead of the forks, but it would be a hell of a lot of work for little functional help, and typically that spacing doesn't show except at that one angle.

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    Got a little disassembly done today, working around the knee pain.

    I removed the panniers and racks, the front wheel fork lowers and trailing arm. The Trailing Arm needs to have a crack welded.


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    MAN! They were not screwing around when they designed that subframe! Had no idea the CLC had so much more meat back there. Plenty of room for that turbo though. :lurk
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    More like no wonder the CLC was such a heavy pig of a BMW twin. That rear frame looks like BMW needed to clear out the metal stock section of the plant.
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    My plan is to reduce the weight as much as possible. Dry weight 637, it feels much heavier, especially in the front. I have already removed about 40 pounds, and think I can get another 20 or more. That front is just a pig. Not sure what I can do other than a narrower tire than stock. Since the front is bad, I am going to slim it down from a 150/80 VR 16 to a 130/90 VR 16. On the Chromheads forum others have reported good results with this. I may have to mod the fender to look right, but we will see.
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    Change the entire fork/wheel assy from the R1200C to your CLC?
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    Plus the headlight, bracketry, fairing removal etc? It would be a bunch of work, and cheaper just to sell this and buy a C. Plus, parts are very hard to come by, especially front end parts.

    Nah, I like the challenge of using what I have, got it cheap, and making it work better.
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    Then like you said earlier, use the lightest looking, slimmer tire that works with the stock wheel. The total black out treatment of the front wheel would aid that because any shine (like a black rim with polished bare flanges) would still emphasize the size of the wheel. Matt black on the A-arm may also minimize its heft compared to the arms common to other R-bikes. But also, doesn't the A-arm of the R12C bikes have the most rake to give it the cruiser look?
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    That's the plan. Near total black out, wheels, forks, trailing arm, everything. The CL has more rake than the C. I was considering a C trailing arm, but I am not sure if it will work with the CL forks. I will see after I find out if mine can be welded or not.
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    I'm sure that mounting the fairing to the frame would mean a HUGE improvement in handling though. I mean, all that weight hanging onto to the front end. It must be like 20-30 lbs of stuff which of course contributes greatly to the heavy feeling. But yeah, like you say, lot's of work to get it done.
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    It did weigh at least 20-25 pounds. I have to pull it off for paint and will check. I have lightened it almost 12 pounds by removing the mirrors, the speakers and speaker boxes, reducing the windscreen to almost nothing (so I can see over it) and removing the wind wings. I am hoping to trim a little more fat from the fairing as well. When done, with the narrower tire, I hope it will be more reasonable at slow speeds. Certainly it will look better. :-)
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