R80/7 + a newb = a long road to cafe

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by benthic, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. benthic

    benthic glutton 4 punishment

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    Hi all,

    I've had a lot going on, but little activity on the bike for a while now. I kept at it, and I have a semi-polished rim to show for my efforts

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    It's not done yet, and won't be perfect, but it doesn't look to bad. I'm not sanding out all the scratches as some are fairly deep, but when I'm done it should look good with the new spokes:) Speaking of spokes, I hope to lace this wheel up this weekend! After that, I'll polish the rear rim and lace it up, then I'm sending both wheels off to Woody's for rim straightening and wheel truing.

    I also have the new SS headers on. They don't fit super great, which was a surprise as I've head that Keihan's are excellent. I'm hoping it is installer error;) I'll keep fiddling. I need to get some new bolts for the muffler mounts, and then the exhaust is in business:) (i also had to remove the kickstand, i'm wondering if it was bent in the crash too. very possible...)

    I still haven't cleaned up the wiring for the speedo yet... maybe next week.

    I finally got the order from Siebenrock that Renner and I put in last month! 30 days it took them and when the box arrived it was beat to hell. miraculously, everything was in the box and undamaged. I now have new peanut valve covers to put on the bike:) I'm serioulsy considering powder coating the "new" swingarm, subframe, centerstand, and peanuts a different color from the rest of the frame. I might stop by the powdercoater today for some color samples...

    lastly, with some luck, i might start making my rear cowling/seat pan this weekend. but that depends on a few things...

    I guess that's it. Happy Friday everyone!
    Spencer
  2. benthic

    benthic glutton 4 punishment

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    hello friends! I finally have something to report.

    the SS headers installed
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    i cleaned up the front hub and sanded the ribs shiny
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    first 20 spokes!
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    all 40:)
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    i tell you what, lacing was super easy. incredibly so. with the rim and hub holes angled it is nigh impossible to do it wrong. All the ready I had done made me nervous about messing up the spoke pattern, but i've come to the conclusion that you'd have to REALLY not pay attention to screw this up. Truing on the other hand, i'm sure is less easy. I'm sending my wheels out to Woody's when I'm done lacing....

    got the rear hub cleaned up, but didn't sand the ribs yet.
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    peanuts from Seibenrock
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    I hope to get the rear hub and rim finished and ready for lacing this week, but i've got a lot going on... I'm hoping I can get the new frame pieces ready for powder coat and send those and the wheels out next week... we'll see how much I get done...

    the progress is bittersweet this time around. I can't help but think of wirewrkr when i look at my new mufflers, or my brake calipers, etc. I had really wanted to ride this bike up to Joshua Tree when it was done. But i guess all any of us can hope for is to be remembered and thought of fondly by those we interact with.

    If you haven't already, stop reading advrider and go vote!
    Spencer
  3. Bill Harris

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    Done been to vote, doing my 'Net browse and then heading out for groceries, pharmacy and lunch. Then back home to putter with the bike (new 6-1/2 gallon non-Toaster tank needs to be fitted, etc).

    Good progress. Great can-do spirit.

    --Bill
  4. benthic

    benthic glutton 4 punishment

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    a quick update, but sadly no fotos this time.

    I got both rims polished up and the wheels laced up finally and got them sent out to Woody's Wheel Works for rim straightening and wheel truing. They tell me the wheels will be done by Friday of this week, so i should get them back early next week:)

    In the meantime, I started buttoning up the electrical wires for the new Acewell speedo. I picked up a soldering gun and taught myself how to solder with some youtube help and pointers from a few friends. My joints are pretty, but they are strong;) I ran out of the connectors I'm using to attach the turn signals, but i hope to pick up some more on the way home one night this week and finish all the wiring soon.

    Renner is going to lend me a small /5 tank (i think that's what it is anyway) that I can use as a mold for a fiberglass rear cowling, and while I'm a bit intimidated by fiberglass, i think I can do it...

    That's about it. Still lots to do, but nearing the "end".

    I hope everyone had a great holiday!
    Spencer
  5. benthic

    benthic glutton 4 punishment

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    I finished up the front end wiring last night. all the signals and blinking lights work:) I will need to start it up and ride it to make sure EVERYTHING is working - like the gen light, and tach, etc... But i'm hopeful...

    Renner lent me that smallish tank last night, I got it home and realized that it is far to small. I don't know what I was thinking. the loop on the subframe is actually very wide compared to the gas tank. off the top of my head I remember the loop being 9" across, and the rear end of MY tank is like 8-1/2, and Renner's smaller tank is even, well, smaller;) So good news Renner! I won't be getting fiberglass resin all over your tank;)

    My new plan is the glass over MY tank, and just stretch the bottom out that last 1/2 inch... we'll see how it goes...

    I believe i'm free all weekend so i hope to get a lot done...

    happy friday everyone!
    Spencer
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  7. benthic

    benthic glutton 4 punishment

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    here's a pic of the wife inspecting my spoke work on the rear wheel before i sent it off to Woody's...

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    she was unimpressed;)

    got some stuff done Saturday night, kind of...

    I figured it would be best to practice some fiberglassing on something that doesn't have to be pretty, so I tried making a new tool tray (my old one doesn't fit with the replacement subframe). This is my second attempt.

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    I guess it didn't turn out too badly for my first ever fiberglass project. definitely solid.

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    I sanded it up a bit Sunday morning

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    still not great. I actually began a third attempt Sunday before deciding that i thoroughly HATE fiberglass. This poses a serious problem for my plan to glass a rear cowling...

    tonight I started messing around with a seat pan. i took this ugly devil:

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    and started modifying it. It doesn't fit on the shorter subframe

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    so i started cutting and riveted the pieces back together

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    then i did something against my better judgement - i busted the fiberglass back out to try to tie the 2 pieces together securely and bridge the joint:

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    This has convinced me not only am i a glutton for punishment, but am also stupid, and solidified my deep, deep hatred for fiberglass. I'm going to talk to my buddy, Spinner tomorrow about an aluminum seat pan and cowling...

    to end on a happy note, here's a pic of my new speedo and gen light mounted and electrified:)

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    my wheels should be back from Woody's tomorrow too:) Maybe I'll have a roller by the weekend...

    I hope everyone had a great weekend!
    Spencer
  8. Bill Harris

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    Good work, sir. That's progress.

    I like that tool tray.

    Fiberglas is fun to work with, but one thing that can make it funner is to use an epoxy resin instead of the polyester resin. Epoxy doesn't smell as much is easier to clean up and has a longer working time (but it takes longer to set up) than polyester. Not as readily available, but go to a good boat shop and get the West Systems epoxy. FWIW.

    Ah, so that's what Ms Fish looks like. She may be unimpressed, but she's tolerant of The Madness, so she's a keeper...

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    :D

    --Bill
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    Hey Spencer, looking good!:thumb I know I've said this before, but looking at page 1 of this thread, it's impressive to see how far you've taken this bike. Even with the crash. Very cool.
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  11. benthic

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    Thanks for the kind words you two, you've both been very encouraging this entire time:)

    Harmonizer! Renner has one, and I've benefited from it several times... I haven't convinced myself to get my own yet.

    My wheels are back from Woody's!

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    I'm a little concerned. I had read that the spokes should have the same "musical" tone, but they don't, implying that they're not all tightened the same:/? I'm going to call Woody's tomorrow and talk to them about it as I'm certainly not an expert. the other disappointing thing is while the rims ARE more straight, they also have additional scratches from the straightening process (i know because I just polished those rims!). oh well.

    my fiberglass seat pan from yesterday seem pretty sturdy
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    but I talked to my buddy, Spinner, and if I cut out the aluminum the way i want it, he'll weld it together. So i think i'm going to do that instead (as well?)...

    Lastly, I finally bobbed the spare front fender i have
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    I'll paint it when i'm sure I'm happy with the shape:)

    If Woody's allays my fears, I think Renner and I are going to mount the tires up tomorrow...

    Spencer
  12. Bill Harris

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    If you need convincing, go to the end of the Harmonizer thread and read the Angst whan the Harmonizer was unavailable for a while.

    Good move on the tires. I was going to suggest extreme caution. As an aside, I've found that real live Ru-Glide tire (rubber) lubricant makes the tire bead slip on so much easier. For years I had used dishwashing detergent in water, but the real-deal is so much better.

    On my own project, I got that bigger 6-1/2 gallon tank re-lined and installed. While the fairiing and everything is off, I'm making a new wiring subharness for the Powerlet connector to power the new heated jacket liner.

    --Bill
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    I spoke with Woody's today. They assure me that the spokes do not all have to have the same tone. as long as there are no super high tones, and super low "dead" tones, it's OK. They also talked to me about indications of loose spokes, and warning signs, etc. after I told them I was asking because of previous "wheel" failure. So off to Renner's I go after work:)

    We've both watch videos on Nomar's website, and we have irons and lube, etc. The tires are cooking in the back of my car to soften them up, so i think we're ready:) wish us luck!

    Bill - your tank re-line, did you do it yourself? i found that to be a very shitty job.
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    Tank re-lining is tricky since the tank is prepped with strong solvents and then the liner has to aggressively adhere to the surface. If you have nice paint on the tank it can be at risk. This tank is original Monza Blue with enough patina to give it character, and with good hand-painted pinstripes.

    The factory liner was basically sound with a few small low-lying areas where that factory liner had corroded from old gas drying out. So after strong solvent removed traces of the old gas and the interior was roughened up with agitatation with drywall screws it was ready to go.

    I used the Caswell epoxy tank liner instead of the usual Kreem or POR solvent-based urethane coating. http://www.caswellplating.com/restoration-aids/epoxy-gas-tank-sealer.html The epoxy is somewhat thicker than the urethane and that viscosity is temperature dependent, as is the pot life, so I had to wait for a warm snap, and carefully monitor the coverage before it started to set up. It did very well, but know how well in few years. ;)

    --Bill
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    Looking good :clap
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    Couldn't one simply use a polyurethane coating on the tank interior? It's fuel and solvent resistant. My tank is pretty rust-free.
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    There are a variety of tank liners out there. the risk in not using a reputable one is that it will come off and you'll have done all the work for nothing. The worst part is the prep with solvents as Bill mentioned. The final step of actually lining is pretty easy.

    in other news! got my new wheels/tires back on the bike:) (don't know if the facebook photo will show up)
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    after this pic, I reattached the headlight and sorted out my clip-ons, but forgot to take more fotos.

    a Big thanks to Renner for his patience with mounting the tires. It was the inaugural tire mount on his new-to-him Nomar tire changing station, and there was definitely a learning curve for both of us, but especially me;)

    tonight is about getting the exhaust finished up, double check all cables, engine/tranny fluids, bleed the brakes and new fork oil in the front end. I desperately want to fire this baby up:) I WILL be puttering around my neighborhood this weekend even if I don't have a proper place to put my ass.;)

    Happy Friday everyone!
    Spencer
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    Tires, round all around. Straight pipes to save from getting read ended. Headlight, set up and aimed to modulate against pesky squirrels. Be sure to put on a Gremlin bell, and rob some handlebar tassels from the kid's bike. Do you have a beanie helmet? Or can you borrow a tupperware bowl from The Domestic Associate?

    Assert y'self with the nosey neigbors this weekend. :lol3:rofl:lol3

    Seriously, it looks good. Whenever I change a tire/ repair a flat I check the tire pressure frequently with an accurate pressure gauge for a couple of days. Just to be sure.

    Don't sweat the seat. This is what I used for a couple of weeks whilst I was awaiting for my Bill Mayer Seat. Teaches you humility, gets a lot of strange looks from the biking community. Teaches them to learn respect... :D

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    Have a great weekend!

    --Bill
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    LOL! Bill that pic is awesome - did you really do that? If you did, it makes me feel a lot better;)

    No one is more paranoid about tires than i am;) I'll check them tonight to see if they lost any air from Wednesday, and then virtually constantly once I start riding. I've seriously thought about those wireless tire pressure monitors... we'll see.

    no straight pipes for me - i'm using the EPCO peashooters I bought from wirewrkr:) they are more noisy, but not as bad as my harley nieghbor;) (who DOES wear a beanie helmet!;) )

    I have a gremlin bell on my Honda Shadow that was given to me by a dear friend. I like the sentiment, but honestly I'm going to cut the clapper out of the bell - the little ringing when i hit bumps makes me think something is falling off the bike!:)
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    Abolsutely. A piece of scrap 3/4" ply zip-tied to the frame for support, an old throw pillow for cushioning. Like I said, humility and respect. :evil

    No need to be paranoid, just be cautious. After a tire change, even if you are good at it, it is possible to get a pinhole, which will leak very slowly and sneak up on you. Lose enough air from the pinhole dribble, the tire will walk around the rim, tear the tube and you'll have a sudden pressure loss. You know the rest...

    Peashooters... a Wirewrkr legacy. Neat.

    --Bill