Radar Detectors on motorcycles (2014)

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Colorado_Rider, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. Gorilla King

    Gorilla King Dobar Skorz!

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    Meh ... I ride a lot on mountain roads.Most LEOs run with their radar on all the time because they are not going to have time to visually judge and turn their units on coming around bend. V1 is very sensitive. Plenty of warning in the twisties.

    When making time on freeways I find a "rabbit" or stay in with the flow of traffic and make sure I'm not the fasted vehicle going down the road.
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  2. Thanantos

    Thanantos Ride hard.

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    *sigh*....ok. :norton
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  3. Gorilla King

    Gorilla King Dobar Skorz!

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    Mountain roads ... and instant on. Think about it.

    Or don't.
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  4. randyo

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    the beam is more focused for that to happen, you may pick up a stray signal if the leo holding the laser gun doesn't have a steady hand

    the beam is more focused than even the scatter of a shotgun blast
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  5. Advntr

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    It works.
    The laser warns you when others are being zapped as well as your self.
    It's not a cloaking device but it has saved me way too many conversations about my velocity. Sometimes it will tell you to just pull over and take your lumps. I have found that pulling over as soon as I realize I had been zapped usually gets a no safety award because they did not have to chase me down.
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  6. NONAME13

    NONAME13 NONAME13

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    Fast in the corners slow on some straights or get an older VFR in road paint yellow and stick to the middle . Ride a cop bike some ride ZX1400's and such just be polite they've heard every excuse I've been given warnings at excessive speeds only to end up chatting about bikes.
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  7. HighFructose

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    8500ci on mine also. works extremely well if you know how to use a radar. just make sure there is someone up ahead of you so he gets radared first, then your detector will catch it.

    laser....your f-ed anyways
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  8. motorfiveo

    motorfiveo Native Texan

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    Short answers:
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    Yes laser detectors are useless.
    Trained radar operators use radar to merely "confirm" your speeding.
    If the officer is running his radar constantly, he's most likely trying to keep everyone slowed down (busy).
    Like it or not, If you have a detector you are far more likely to be cited if pulled over.
    YOUR EYES SHOULD BE YOUR DETECTOR!
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  9. WillieJ

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    +1. And what Thanantos said too.
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  10. Gorilla King

    Gorilla King Dobar Skorz!

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    And never run with scissors. :lol3
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  11. toy4fun

    toy4fun GET out of the way

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    And LEOs love those new speed limit signs that flash and say your speed is guess what they use to determine your speed. So you are busy watching the detector and the sign sets it off so you ignore it (yes both the detector and the sign) and the LEO zaps you because he is in an umarked car coming down the road. But I have never had that happen to me:lol3
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  12. Snapper

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    I've been using a RD for over a decade - currently an 8500 cabled to sound isolating earbuds, with an MP3 mixed in - I don't leave home without it.

    Yes, RD's are pretty useless against instant-on laser or radar, but around where I live, the LEOs save this heavy artillery more for where it matters - the more populated highways, main through roads, and commercial/school/residential districts where it's not much fun to ride fast anyways. The volume of vehicles make it worthwhile to deploy the heavy artillery, and it must be like shooting fish in a barrel.

    In the more remote twisty backroads where we really enjoy riding, all I tend to see are LEOs running constant-on radar, mostly from patrol cars coming the other way, and occasionally a stationary trap, but with the LEO sitting inside the car. In the more desolate backroads, I suppose it could get quite boring trying to actively shoot the fish - guess it's better to just mount the fishing rod, tie a bell to the string, take a nap, and let the fish come to you.

    Oh yeah... I'm also a winter rider, and that's the safest time of year to ride hard (assuming clean road surfaces). With the foliage down, you can see through the corners, spot the kamikaze deer coming, see cars coming out of driveways, fewer places for the cops to hide, and it's just too cold to stand outside/roll down a window to shoot instant-on.

    My RD works perfectly where I need it to ;).
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  13. fast4d

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    90% of these signs are x band. my v1 has x band turned off.

    it also gives me the number of radar sources and their direction(s)

    this is what makes valentine better than all others.

    my take on lidar.....cop would have to be in position to 'sharp shoot'

    might be too much on a hot or cold day. radar can cut down the time they have to aim/shoot
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  14. k-moe

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    Ya, someone who trains with firearms on a regular basis might have difficulty putting a red dot on a target :lol3
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  15. beemerkid

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    Its not about ability. Any regular idiot could aim a radar or laser gun to hit a car, maybe a bike too. its about effort. I f you tried to run an instant on gun against every ride that came the other way you'd get tired of that real quick. Running on all the time you could just drive down the road getting what you get from the 95% who dont run detectors.. Much easier. The rate of caught/ not is not in the mix here.

    If your a LEO, and you care about 5 mph over, you can roll with your radar on all the time and occupy your time. Ther'es plenty of people just going along along outside of the law too
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  16. randyo

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    that's one of the nice features of the V-1, it will tell you if there are multiple signals
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  17. k-moe

    k-moe Long timer

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    Any officer that is using LIDAR or Instant-On Radar isn't randomly chosing vehicles. He's confirming the speed of a vehicle that he's already picked out as being in violation of the speed limit.
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  18. MauiCowie

    MauiCowie Been here awhile

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    As a rule I routinely run both motorcycles and cars at 8-9 over on cruise control to avoid getting performance awards. I get hit by LD/instant on radar all of the time. I don't care how well trained you think LEOs are but they cannot accurately differentiate by eye if on oncoming vehicle is do 58 in a 50 or 62 in a 50. Hence why they use LIDAR and Radar.

    I see staters on the sides of highways all of the time using LIDAR on every single vehicle coming by them.

    I get instant on radar'd by both state and country LEOs all of the time when I'm not doing anywhere near ten over.
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  19. Advntr

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    Yeah...sure and the check is in the mail...that does not happen here in the vampire state[ny] and many other places. Last week 3 days in row I got zapped with lidar while cruising at the speed limit. The only thing observed by the officer was here comes another possible citation. Just about every time I have one rolling at me on the two lane I get lit up with instant on even though I am poking along within 5 mph of the limit.
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  20. STurgisSTeele

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    Maybe LEO's hit you with radar to see if/how you react? Do you slow up/hit the brakes? That, I was told, could be an admission of guilt. Don't know how accurate that is, but I've always maintained that if you hold your speed, assuming within 10 mph over or less, you won't be bothered. At least this has been my experience whether in a cage or on the bike.
    I don't use a RD. The only two speeding tickets I've ever gotten, in my teenage years, was when I relied too much on the RD. Best to use your eyes, intuition, and don't drive more than 10 over. YMMV
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