Radio control nuts

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by RC Pilot, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. Jeffy

    Jeffy Hmm...

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    I remember back when I was getting into planes and heli's, only the electric planes were I think it was by Airtronics. Brushed motors were still 360 size so they were anchors. Batteries were still Nicad's which were heavy as well since most were only 1300mah at best. Now batteries are over 2000 mah and with li-po's they are very compact, although a bit more brittle and explosive. :lol3

    It seems most planes have moved away from balsa and Ultracote and are now foam, plastic and/or fiberglass.

    To get into heli's you were stuck with glow. The smallest ones were .30ci which meant you had to have a heli that was around 4ft long. Now you can get heli's that are electric and have full collective that are only a few inches long. Then there is cost. You couldn't get into a heli for less then $1000. Now you can get started for under $100 (fixed-collective not co-axle)

    Then there are turbines. These were only starting out when I got started as well. Most 'jets' were glow powered duct fans or pusher prop'ed. The turbines are $$$ but sound awesome.

    Getting back to glow vs. electrics. The fuel hasn't changed much and you're paying $40-50/gal which isn't cheap. Depending on the battery packs, you could get a few for that price. You don't have to deal with getting fuel all over everything either. Not to mention the mess it makes as it's vaporized and exits as exhaust then recondenses.

    One other advance in the industry, RC Simulators. I think this is a huge step forward. No more having to go at it with books and a fat wallet.:lol3
  2. P B G

    P B G Long timer

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    Now electric is more powerful, easier to maintain, batteries last longer so its basically cheaper.

    BUT. I don't do planes, I have a few Nitro and electric things around still, and if I do RC again I won't put money into anything that isn't gasoline.
  3. merickk

    merickk Living Folk Tale

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    I had a savage 4.9 but got sick of chasing it down and flipping it back over. The rock crawling is much more fun and challenging to me.
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  4. Tindjin

    Tindjin Old No. 7

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    Hey merickk do you go to the crawler comps out near Cuba and San Ysidro? I got out of cars for a few years but I'll be picking up a crawler soon for some fun. Thinking of going with the Losi 2.2 crawler now that it's out.
  5. merickk

    merickk Living Folk Tale

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    Missed too many comps up here this time around (busted the screen on my dx3R) There were quite a few farmington guys that went down to Alb for the semi finals a few weeks ago. The new losi is pretty nice though, havent messed with one but have seen them.
  6. Tindjin

    Tindjin Old No. 7

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    Just put in an order for the DX3R a couple days ago, nice fricken radio.

    Yea saw pics and videos from the state finals from this last weekend (or last weekend not sure..), though there was some stupid drama it looked like there was some really good terrain that they put together for it.
  7. cRAsH

    cRAsH Banned

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    Maidened my first successful scratch built today. :wings

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    My hurried construction techniques bit me a little, but all in all a very good series of flights.

    Tomorrow, I'll try to get a camera-sized payload off the ground. :deal

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  8. Beez

    Beez Given to fly

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    I need to put the final stickers on my WRX, the race ones. Has anyone here done the trick where you spray a solution of water and soap on it first so you can slide the sticker around and get less air bubbles? I've never done that before.
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  9. Tindjin

    Tindjin Old No. 7

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    It's pretty easy. You want only the very tiniest bit of soap in the water. Like 1 cup of water and 2-3 drops of soap, mix it up and use it. That has always gotten me good results.

    When I say drops I mean like a water drop. Put a little bit on your finger/spoon that would be close and then stir.
  10. Bender

    Bender I can pass this guy..

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    It works great! I just use window cleaning stuff like windex.
  11. RC Pilot

    RC Pilot Shut up and fly!

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    I use a light spray of Windex (or equivalent). It allows you to move the stickers around, but still allows them to stick once it dries out.


  12. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Ancient trailbike padwan

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    WOOT!

    Looks cool! :clap

    Maybe a little more dihedral, but that's just nitpickin'.

    So how much weight are you planning on lofting with this plane? It seems a little scant for wing area for an AP platform, but I've been out of the microcamera stuff for almost 5 years now.

    Don't forget that GWS Slowstiks are still the most popular AP platform, you'll probably do fine with this plane, but, just sayin'....
  13. cRAsH

    cRAsH Banned

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    My unscientifical tests prove you correct. :lol3
    It looks like about 2-3 oz for a whole FPV setup -
    camera, tx, batteries, antenna. This plane will lift that easily.
    I tried to launch my Canon A470 @ 8 oz :eek1 and it flew, but would not climb fast enough to escape the tree vortex. It was more a power issue than a lift issue I think.
    The wing is back on the drawing doard - it was basically a scaled up Vapor wing with a KF-2 airfoil.
    Plenty of lift but squirrely. It turns on a dime though!:lol3
    I think I'll increase dihedral, cut 2" of chord off and add some span, maybe 8-10".
    :nod I hear ya - I stole some design ideas from the SS, as you can probably tell. CF arrow shaft from the sporting goods store - $4. :thumb
    It's all modular so I can switch wings and tail feathers in minutes.
    Next wing I'm going to try a built up undercamber using EPP ribs and either ultracote or 2mm EPP skin.
    Ditch the full flying tail surfaces too.

    I'm determined to get a good AV platform built from scratch.

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  14. cRAsH

    cRAsH Banned

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    oh, and add ailerons... :deal

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  15. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Ancient trailbike padwan

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    Yup carbon fiber arrow shafts rule. You've probably already discovered hot wire cut foam airfoils. I've got a slim little slope flying wing called the MOG that uses a 48" length pull-truded CF rod for the mainspar. It's amazing what G-forces these things will take.

    As a side note I picked up about 20 pounds of tweaked and damaged hollow CF thingys from a sailboard shop locally that went out of business. I actually ended up with a lot of useful bits, but I'm using two of the nicest tapered sail stays to ...keep the 5th door on my Turbobrick's rear open while stowing models. :rofl

    I had that bitch come down and crush one of my planes. Dammit, never did get to see it fly. :cry

    OK now that I see it up closer it's bigger. Lotsa wing area.

    Damn, I should try to make it to WestFest, but I'm basicly bikeless and pretty broke right now. I think it would be a hoot to get together and do an on-site daily report with AV coverage of the ongoing arrivals and rides. My Pigi 3D is my favorite AP platform, I love that ugly thing.
  16. Saget

    Saget Not quite a full house

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    Me, out in front of my house. E-Flite Blade 400 heli with a GoPro Hero helmet camera hanging from the skids. Fun stuff!
  17. Jeffy

    Jeffy Hmm...

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    Very nice. I'm thinking to myself, "Powerlines", "Light Poles", "Trees", etc... :lol3 I was waiting for the 3D stuff to begin, too.
  18. anonny

    anonny What could go wrong?

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    Sailplanes, RC controlled is my vice. I built them and flew them for years then put them away for about 15 years, now my stepson and I are just finishing off a Fling and I can see it starting the whole thing up again. :D
  19. Guzz

    Guzz Gutless wonder

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    Same here, LOVE sailplanes.

    Just one word of caution. Beware of the Discus Launch Gliders (DLG). They are so damn addictive!!! So addictive that I haven't flown anything else but DLG for about a year now.

    They are so nice because they are 1.5m wing span that will fit in most cars fully assembled (with a little work and careful planning), and they don't require any thing to launch them (no High Starts, wenches, etc). Just you the Tx, and plane.

    You can get 200 foot launches, with some practice.
  20. FPGT72

    FPGT72 Long timer

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    I have one electric glider, it is so nice just power up to where you want and it just goes on forever.

    I have a bad shoulder so I can't toss the plane...it has also kept me off the bike for the last 18months....hopefully I can get back to both someday.