Either I've been cursed with rain gear or my expectations are just to high. Am I asking to much to actually want to stay dry while wearing these things? Last time I rode in serious rain, I considered stopping so I could cut a hole for the water to get out again. I've have a BMW rain suit and the bloody thing leaks now I have a Revit and also got wet. However, I just went and tested it, not very scientifically, but still a test. I put a bucket under the crotch area and poured enough water over the offending area until it formed a nice little pond. There was no sign of a leak. I repeated it, where the zipper ends, that's the area that has a large flap behind it, with the same result. Now last time in the rain, it took a few minutes before I was wet, yet there are no obvious holes. So, what's the likely cause, apart from having peed myself and not noticed? Did I not fold the flaps over the zipper properly? Did it run down my neck? Will the water only push through, if I am sitting on that area? It's an overall by the way. Maybe a two piece suit would be better? Since I am doing the DB1K I don't want to end up wet at altitude and then end up freezing to death. I hate the cold, by the way. What do you guys use?