Rally Diabolico

Discussion in 'Racing' started by HogWild, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. LC4Dakar

    LC4Dakar Been here awhile

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    I told my wife I was just taking a three day ride in Death Valley for the Baja Rally.
  2. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    You'll be fine in Baja. It's not like it was a few years ago. Other corridors are primary concern now a days.
  3. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Diabolico isn't in Baja. It's actually even safer where we are heading because it's such a horrible place to transport through or try to hide anything there.
  4. BC61

    BC61 Long timer

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    Fantastic marketing slogan. How soon will the shirts be available?
  5. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Good idea!

    A couple of days ago I was talking to a neighbor about the rally. When I told him about entry fees he thought that's how much we pay the competitors, and he wouldn't race it no matter how much we paid him!

    But to be honest, we've backed off a bit on the "crazy" stuff. We have to work around a nature preserve this year, which has taken away one of my favorite super challenging features. We may be able to bring it back in the future, but for our first year we need to keep things manageable for the competitors as well as our helpers. This first year it will for sure be challenging, but for those who are afraid it may be "too hard", I would say come and do it and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Those who want to win or place well will have to take on a few bigger challenges. Those who just want to finish will be spared the worse in exchange for a few extra minutes on their overall time.

    BTW, we should be announcing the entry fees VERY soon (maybe tomorrow), and entries will open not long after that.
  6. lastplace

    lastplace Been here awhile

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    Do all of the FIM rally rules apply?

    About how long would it take to drive to/from the start/finish from (pick the closest US city as a reference point), including border crossing?

    thanks
    Charlie
  7. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    No, but for tires it helps us keep everything simple.

    We haven't finalized the exact bivouac spot yet, but the most likely start/finish location will be less than an hour from the border crossing, which is not far from Mexicali MX or Yuma, AZ.
  8. silverstone

    silverstone Been here awhile

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    What type of race license do we need FIM, FIA or do you have other ideas????
  9. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    I don't think there is a need for either FIM or FIA for our first year. I'll let you know if that changes.
  10. seasider

    seasider Just a rider

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    How much of a rally noob can you be to logically think about trying this rally. I only have three Rally Motos under my belt and all at Sandblast.
    Is it too late to learn the basics to participate?
  11. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Navigation in Diabolico is quite different than Sandblast, so I'm not sure that will help you much. Don't sign up for Diabolico until you understand what "HP" means in the rally world. It has nothing to do with your motor!

    I recommend taking a class from RMS. You'll learn a lot of simple tricks that will make it easier and more fun for you, and you'll get some good practice with the training roadbooks. It's WELL worth it!

    But basic roadbook reading is pretty simple. It's doing it under pressure and not making mistakes that's hard. I'm not putting in any magic tricks or miss-directions in the Diabolico roadbooks, so if you have the right tools, understand the roadbook details, and don't ever make a mistake, you can probably do just fine.

    One thing you should definitely practice before coming is following a numeric GPS compass heading, and having good situational awareness regarding compass directions. You'll want to have burned into your head which way 0°, 90°, 180°, and 270° are, and have a rough idea which direction any heading between 0° and 360° is. The heading number on your GPS will tell you, but you should have a good sense of this even without a GPS.

    Keep in mind Diabolico isn't just navigation. There are some monster dunes out there. If you can get through the dunes, the rest should be a piece of cake. If you can't handle dunes, come and help another rider in the bivouac.

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    So, we're out prerunning a stage, it's flat hard pack for many miles, and we're on a very faint road. Then suddenly the ground drops out from under us and we go off this edge. Lucky it wasn't a straight off cliff! What we hadn't noticed is that the faint road had curved off to one side, following along the top of the cliff. Turning lemons into lemon aid, the roadbook now says "!!! HP" from the top of this cliff, off the edge, and out to some random point in the distance.

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  12. frog

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    "!!!HP"... Holy PHUCK. :D

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  13. Bluebull2007

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    :huh Holy moly, imagine ploughing off that at 150!!!
  14. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Yep, Rally...its a lot of ride what you can see and don't trust the road book too much. Always a little exciting when you crest some giant dune and find a different vertical approach on the other side.
  15. guymanbro

    guymanbro da Vermonster

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    I may have to figure out how to get down to Mexico for March through May now. . .

    This looks fan freakin tastic!
  16. Baja Dad

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    Any new UPDATES????:evil
  17. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    We made a final decision on the bivouac location. For a while we had a couple of options, but finally decided on the original spot. It's out a very nice dirt road, easily accessible by large motorhomes, big trailers, etc. I can’t say much more on that.

    I’m working on a map package to send to the guy doing the environmental impact study. Since the rally enters an environmental preserve area, we are under the microscope. It will be a major accomplishment to get through this since there has never been racing in this area before. All indications are we’ll get everything we need to have a fantastic rally.

    We’ve been getting great support from ejidos and others down there, helping us get everything in order. I can’t give names, but rest assured the local Mexican people are eager to have us down there, and are clearing the bumps one after another!

    I’m working on getting the entry registration process finalized.

    I’ll be going down to prerun some new stuff we found soon.

    Diabolico could not have gotten this far without Darren Skilton’s skills and connections. THANK YOU Darren for joining in the vision of providing a true taste of Dakar in our own back yard!
  18. Bluebull2007

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    Great news Scott. :clap
  19. cagiva900

    cagiva900 John Deykes

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    So Scott, you're going to make all the loyal Lowrance fans finally change to Garmin???? And my little Aprilia likes loooong distances between gas stops. Your right, this isn't the San Felipe 250.:rofl
  20. johnBOYhenson

    johnBOYhenson rallye intern

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    Scott,

    i'm really excited that Rally has come to N. America! So, hat's off to you man for putting this together!

    I'm here, lurking, waiting for the final word and then i plan to sign up!

    Cheers,

    JBH

    :clap