Rally Navigator - Create Rally Roadbooks with Google Earth and GPS

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RenoMoto, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I believe there is some use of this type of tech in competitive racing (Tripy) but my suggestion was aimed more at the recreational use of Roll Charts which seems to be growing lately around the world. It was also just a geeks' view of a way to enhance Rally Navigator's recreational use.

    As for the tech - keeping in mind I'm talking recreational use - it's not a problem to remote the control of the display using Bluetooth or WiFi. But, I don't think scrolling linked to the GPS would be an issue for recreational use.

    I don't believe the Monterra will need a Mapping application (craftycoder's) since it will have Garmin's but using his app to link via WiFi to DualSportMaps.com might be interesting for travel without a laptop.
  2. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    I already have a pretty positive opinion of Tripy. I just don't want one for myself to display a roadbook for racing purposes. BTW, does it have the ability to display satellite imagery while planning a route? To me, that's the essence of laying out a good rally route, which is why RN uses that approach. I almost never use any sort of map when planning a route. Maps hide all the best places I want to go, and the best ways to get there. "HP" is the best part of rally, and no maps anywhere show those HP paths.

    For dual sport roll chart type use, a rugged Android device would be great. Some on the D37 forum already asked if RN supported a narrow roll chart format. If Mike wants to keep forking out more money to add more features, I think a roll chart format option would be a cool and popular addition.

    I was refering to his remote control switch/joystick thingy that I think plugs into an Android device USB port.
  3. Myway

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  4. Gany

    Gany Been here awhile

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    For the recreational rider, would there be any interest in an ipad mini app (essentially a pdf reader) that could be scrolled forward/back using a mechanical connection?

    My thoughts:
    - ipad mini in a griffin survivor case (mini is a similar size to paper roadbooks)
    - attachment of roadbook remote (f2r, RNS, mecasystems) via an M8 connector to the headphone jack to scroll forwards/backwards

    Not sure exactly what would be involved with the code for such a thing or if there are 'apple' issues with the connector cable in question.

    I think it would be easier to justify a purchase of an ipad mini vs a roadbook given its multiple other uses, and eliminates the paper scroll printing issue. Certainly sounds more appealing to the recreational rider. Get lost, open up another GPS app that takes you home.

    Thoughts? Worth pursuing?
  5. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    If RN could provide a PDF format for a narrow roll chart I'm sure there are coders out there who can whip up a "reader" for either Android and/or iOS. Android would certainly be the easiest solution platform and given that you would only need forward/back scrolling, I still think you could easily adapt one of the many sealed Bluetooth remote controls. As an EE I don't like USB ports for anything other than in-home desktop use. But any physical connection would open the IPV67 envelope defeating the purpose.
  6. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    For the budget minded recreational rider, I would think a dual-sport narrow roll chart format would be better. Print on sheets on your home printer, cut to width, tape together. Roll chart holders are under $30. That keeps the cost to almost nothing, and doesn't risk hundreds of dollars in sensitive electronics when you crash.


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  7. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I absolutely agree re: budget minded user. I have one of those rollchart holders on my gear shelf.

    There is some irony in your attache photo and caption: "doesn't risk hundreds of dollars in sensitive electronics when you crash." e.g, a Garmin Rino 530 held on with rubber bands. :rofl
  8. Brimstone

    Brimstone Super Duper n00b!

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    That Rhino will take ALOT more abuse than any smartphone will! I just look at my iPhone and it scratches itself...
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Notice the "rolling on the floor" Smily. I own two Rino's and can attest to their durability. None the less, affixing the unit with rubber bands in the context of HogWild's post is very funny.
  10. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Fortunately that photo is just something random I grabbed from the net. It's not MY setup. No windshield for me!
  11. Gian

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    any help with this :confused ?
  12. DaveRMS

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    We fixed some problems and now everyone should use GE 7.

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  13. Gian

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    I mean I can't use GE7 on my desktop, because it doesn't work with Mapsource or even Google Maps. So I can only use GE6.2, but it looks your amazing Rally Navigator doesn't work with GE 6.2, any chance?
    Many thanks
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    I would imagine that it's only a matter of time before those others start using the current GE. We're not likely to go backwards in the meantime.

    Maybe some other Windows users will chime in with their Mapsource experience and some tips.
  15. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    We had added a few more features to Rally Navigator.


    Added 4th Road type to the Tulip Drawing: 'Highway" See below.

    User can now select the Road type for the Tulip drawing - that road type carries to all subsequent Tulips until the user selects a different road type.

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    More Navigation Icons - Thanks to Alessio Corradini for designing these beautiful icons. Check the "Landmarks 2" tab in the Waypoint editor.

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    Improved the way no-go roads are added - the first road is dropped at 90 degrees and the second road is dropped directly opposite - it forms a perpendicular road intersection in two quick moves.

    Lots of little improvements - Take it for a spin at www.rallynavigator.com

    Feedback is welcome!
  16. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    I just had a new glitch pop up. I was looking over an older road-book I did this winter and noticed that my tulips no longer fit in the window. Many of the arrow ended up out of the box.

    When I went to edit the tulips the arrows and symbols were all inside the edit box, but when I got out of the edit mode the arrows/symbols no longer fit in the tulip box on the road-book.

    Update: Strange, on the Laptop everything is OK, but on the Desktop I get cropped tulips.

    Any ideas?
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    Check your browser's zoom level (control +/- typically). The current app doesn't support zooming properly.

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  18. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    Nope. I tried zooming way in and way out, but the arrows are still out of the tulip box.
  19. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Inmates,

    I have been working on the Rally Navigator project for nearly two years and tonight we finally released our Premium Version - no more beta testing - it's the REAL DEAL! It's a big milestone for the project and I thought it was worth sharing.

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    I'm hoping Rally Navigator will grow the sport of Rally and help create more navigation based motorcycle events around the world.


    We will be offering a basic Free Version and full feature Premium and Pro Versions.

    Standard Features on All Versions
    • Automatically Capture Segment Distance & Basic Tulip Drawing
    • Drag and Drop Rally Navigation Icons
    • Custom Tulip Drawing Tools
    • Drag and Drop 5 Basic Waypoint Text Descriptions
    • Supports Kilometers or Miles
    • Facebook Integration for Sharing
    • Sharing Preferences: Keep Route Private - Share with Select Friends - Share in Public library
    • Select Road Type for Tulip Drawing
    • Automatically Calculate and Print Fuel Range in Header

    We offer 2 Upgraded Versions of Rally Navigator:
    Premium Version – for Personal use, not for Commercial use

    Pro Version - Licensed for Commercial use by event and race organizers

    Learn more about Free, Premium and Pro Versions


    Getting Started and Creating a Route

    Premium Version - Detailed Tulips, Icons, Headings

    • Print Roadbooks with Complete Tulips and Navigation Icons
    • Show and Hide CAP Headings and GPS Coordinates for each Waypoint
    • Create Rally Route From Imported GPX tracks
    • Utilization of Google Earth Roads & Routing Function - Snap Track to Road
    • Support for Continuous Roll Print Output
    • Import Captured GPX Tracks Over Existing Routes to Correct Route After Pre-run
    • Export GPX Tracks of Routes to GPS Units for Pre-Running
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    Free Version Printing - Basic Info Only
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    Thanks to Dave Peckham at Rally Management Services & Paul van Dinther from Planet in Action for their help bringing Rally Navigator to life.

    A very special thanks to the great Scott Whitney (Hog Wild) - this project would not exist without his inspiration.

  20. SteveDennehy

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    The effort you have put into this brilliant project is most appreciated. $49 per year is unquestionably worth it, so I paid it with a smile.

    Thanks :1drink