Rally Navigator - Create Rally Roadbooks with Google Earth and GPS

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RenoMoto, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. 88NX250

    88NX250 Team USA

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    725
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    Seattle, WA

    Can you guys add this to the FAQ page? I am an IE user as well and this skunked me the first time I tried to save.

    Otherwise this is AMAZING so far! Thanks guys!

    -Iain
  2. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Navigator runs best of Firefox on PC and Chrome on Mac.

    http://www.rallynavigator.com/optimize_your_system

    Optimize Your System for Rally Navigator - Firefox and Google Earth

    Get the New Firefox with IPC Control OFF


    Google Earth speed test and more info


    This speed test issues a number of Google Earth plugin API calls for every frame drawn. The number of frames per second is a measure on how fast this is done.

    Rally Navigator may make thousands of calls per second to the Google Earth plugin. This is called "Inter Process Communication" IPC for short. If each of those calls takes a tiny amount longer you immediately suffer massive performance penalties.

    Turn off IPC Control to the Google Earth Plug In

    Type "about:config" into your address bar, you'll get to a page with a lot of settings. Find the line for "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled =true" and toggle it to "false". Restart your browser and Firefox will run 3-5 times faster!
    A modern computer with IPC off should be 40-60 frames per second

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    Hope that helps!
  3. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt!

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    I just used RN to set up a nice DS loop of Utah.

    The software is so good that I prefer using it to create GPX tracks for my GPS than the shitty Garmin Base Camp crap.
  4. Happe

    Happe Offroad Nut

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    Wales UK
    Hiya,

    we are just in Holiday trip preparation mode and start sharing routes.
    Can I save a route a friend shared with me and edit it as my own in Premium?

    cu
    Stefan
  5. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

    Joined:
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    [FONT=&quot]Howdy!

    The Rally Navigator Development Team has been working away in our Top Secret Underground Rally Bunker!


    New Feature: FIM/FIA Navigation Notes.

    Very cool and a nice step towards making Dakar quality roadbooks.


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    HUGE Thanks to Jeremy B. (Beechum1) for creating these Icons and Dave at Rally Management Services for the help getting this all together.


    More stuff on the way soon. As usual, I look forward to feedback and questions.


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  6. 12Bong13

    12Bong13 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Oddometer:
    203
    Location:
    Rouyn-Noranda, Qc
    As a suggestion, would it be possible in the futur to buy a upgrade license that would give you full access to all the option that the program has per roadbook that you make?
    I find that the free version does not have enough info on it.

    For example, I plan on making 1 maybe 2 roadbooks next summer. I would really like to use the full program, but I am not sure I will use it enough to warrant the 50$ upgrade.
    I would not mind paying a little extra to get the full version per roadbook though.

    Thanks
  7. Adalift

    Adalift nOob

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Oddometer:
    94
    Location:
    The Shires.
    Hey Renomoto,
    Damn you site rocks, had a little play earlier and found it pretty simple to use. I tried to register but it wouldn't let me join, am being a dumbass? :norton
  8. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Oddometer:
    244
    Location:
    Sitting at My Computer
    Inmates:

    I spent some time putting together an email for all of our Trial Users that has links to sample files and lists most of the new features we have added in the recent past.

    I thought you guys might enjoy playing with the sample files for GPX Route Import, GPX Overlay, Completed Route pdf files and links to completed routes in Navigator

    Have a look around and let me know if it all works/makes sense.

    Thanks for the continued feedback.

    Mike



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  9. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    Hey mike

    I'm still making routes , how do you swap routes between friends , I made one under my GF name and want to put it into my routes is that possible


    Cheers Micah
  10. LuisLourenco

    LuisLourenco Blue orange

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    Great improvement :)

    One important improvement would be the ability to write a distance in the central column, like in this pic:

    [​IMG]
  11. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Currently Rally Navigator will import a GPX track to create a route - We are working on a feature that will also allow a rider to manually drop waypoints in your GPS as you ride along a route. When importing both the captured Tracks and Waypoints to Navigator in a GPX file, these dropped waypoints will become Navigational waypoints in the road book. For example, riding along and marking a ditch, turn, landmark, etc.

    We have this feature working well when using my Garmin GPSMap60cxs.

    GPX file types have quite a bit of variation between gps units, desktop software etc.

    I need a few more sample gps files for our developer to analyze so we can support more units and GPX oddities.

    Can a few of you guys go ride a (or drive in your car) a 10-15 mile route and drop 10-20 waypoints along the way and send me the GPX and Garmin (or whatever brand you are using) files?


    Please send the files to mike@rallynavigator.com and include details of what gps unit and desktop software you used.

    Thanks a lot!
  12. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Luis:

    Thanks for the good idea - we are working on it

    These will be pre made icons 10-25-50-100-200m with arrows at each end.

    Icons will rotate and scale to fit your needs


    Shouldn't take too long

    Thanks again,
  13. SteveDennehy

    SteveDennehy Steve

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    Hi
    I like the feature that can overlay the GPX of the actual route I rode, and compare it with the route planned in Rally Navigator.
    Would it be possible to do a rule check, and generate a score?
    Penalties for missing a waypoint by more than some limit, and speeding by more than some limit, could be given, and a total penalty calculated.
    Possible?

    Just an idea. It is already a great program :clap
  14. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    We have made good progress on this new feature, it's up on Rally Navigator now and ready to use.

    Previously, we could just import a capture GPX Track without any Waypoints into Navigator, a user had to create ALL Waypoints along the track on the Navigator software.

    Rally Navigator: New and IMPROVED!

    Track and Waypoint Import: To create a roadbook using this feature, simply ride along the route and manually create Waypoints in your Garmin GPSMap60 GPS unit at each Navigation Waypoint. Save this file as a GPX using Mapsource or Basecamp. In Navigator, click 'Create a Route" then use the "Import GPX" Premium feature.

    Navigator will create the Route and Waypoints in the Roadbook. You will probably need to clean it up a bit. All of the route info is easily edited using Navigator: Move, Delete or Create more Waypoints and Tracks, Drag track handles to fine tune CAP headings and verify proper placement of Waypoints etc.

    Currently this feature has been developed and tested using a Garmin GPSMap60cxs. GPX formats vary greatly between GPS units, other units may not work. If so, only a track will be imported.

    Take it for a spin at www.rallynavigator.com

    Please let me know if you are able to successfully use this feature with any other GPS units, I'm curious to know.

    Thanks for your feedback.
  15. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Steve:

    Interesting idea. I added it to the long list of development features.

    We have lots of other stuff in the works so don't hold your breath...but it is very interesting!

    Thanks for the feedback!


  16. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Sorry for the double post. I need some help testing this feature and also sample GPX files from you kind folks.


    Creating a detailed Rally Roadbook with GPX Track and Waypoint Import


    We have made good progress on this new Premium feature, it's up on Rally Navigator now and ready to use.

    Previously, we could just import a capture GPX Track without any Waypoints into Navigator, a user had to create ALL Waypoints along the track on the Navigator software.

    Rally Navigator: New and IMPROVED!


    To create a rally roadbook using this feature, simply ride along the route and manually create Waypoints in your Garmin GPSMap60 GPS unit at each Navigation Waypoint. Save this file as a GPX using Mapsource or Basecamp. In Navigator, click 'Create a Route" then use the "Import GPX" Premium feature.

    Navigator will create the Route and Waypoints in the Roadbook. You will probably need to clean it up a bit. All of the route info is easily edited using Navigator: Move, Delete or Create more Waypoints and Tracks, Drag track handles to fine tune CAP headings and verify proper placement of Waypoints etc.

    Currently this feature has been developed and tested using a Garmin GPSMap60cxs.

    Take it for a spin at www.rallynavigator.com


    I need a few more sample GPS files for our developer to analyze so we can support more units and GPX oddities.

    GPX file output types have quite a bit of variation between gps units, desktop software etc. Please let me know if you are able to successfully use this feature with any other GPS units, I'm curious to know. If the Waypoints in the file won't import, only a Track will be imported into Navigator.

    Can a few of you guys go ride a (or drive in your car) a 10-15 mile route and drop 10-20 waypoints along the way and try to import in to Rally Navigator and send me the GPX and Garmin (or whatever brand you are using) files?

    Please send the files to mike@rallynavigator.com and include details of what GPS unit and desktop software you used.

    Thanks for your feedback.
  17. TRZ Charlie

    TRZ Charlie That's MR. Asshole

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    I can't get it to accept a .gpx file..am I missing something?
  18. XRman

    XRman Long timer

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    there are a lot of GPX files at www.transaustraliatrail.com.au

    The ones i did are in the victorian section . South West adventure trail. Basecamp and Garmin.Gpsmap62s

    That looks like a high powered program. best wishes in developing it.
  19. darkstarmoto

    darkstarmoto Am I evil? Yes I am

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    Interesting...gonna have to try this out.
  20. SteveDennehy

    SteveDennehy Steve

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    I havn't used Rally navigator for a while. The yellow dots that used to be at each "point" have disappeared, which is a bit disconcerting. I see that I can still add points by clicking, and now make then snap to roads with Ctrl-click. Attempts to adding with text (Ctrl-Alt-click) causes Firefox to hang.
    Also how do I drag a point that I have created? Or change a point from one without a associated text to one with? Or delete a point that does not have associated text?

    :becca