Rally Navigator - Create Rally Roadbooks with Google Earth and GPS

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  1. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    I spent some time putting together an email for all of our Trial Users that has links to sample files and lists most of the new features we have added in the recent past.

    I thought you guys might enjoy playing with the sample files for GPX Route Import, GPX Overlay, Completed Route pdf files and links to completed routes in Navigator

    Have a look around and let me know if it all works/makes sense.

    Thanks for the continued feedback.

    Mike



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    • Show and Hide CAP Headings and GPS Coordinates for each Waypoint
    • Sign and Speed Icons in the Text Box
    • Drag and Drop FIM/FIA Text Abbreviations
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    • Create Rally Route From Imported GPX tracks
    • Utilization of Google Earth Roads & Routing Function - Snap Track to Road
    • Support for Continuous Roll Print Output
    • Import and Overlay Captured GPX Tracks and Waypoints Over Existing Routes to Correct Route After Pre-run
    • Export GPX Tracks of Routes to GPS Units for Pre-Running

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    View a Completed Route in Rally Navigator
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    Drag and Drop FIA/FIM Waypoint Notes
    Just like Dakar Rally Roadbooks

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    Create a New Route Using Snap to Roads

    Hold 'Control' key while clicking along a route - Navigator will Snap to Roads and drop Waypoints at all Google Earth Navigation Points
    Hold '
    Control' and 'Alt' while clicking and Text Instructins will also be added

    Very Cool!


    Create a New Route by Importing GPX Tracks

    Download Sample GPX File via Google Drive
    Click "Create Route" in Navigator
    Use file to
    "Import GPX" to create an initial Route


    Overlay GPX Tracks Over Existing Route After Pre-Run
    Download Sample GPX Pre-Run Track via Google Drive
    Captured by GPS from Pre-Run of the Route
    Click "Overlay GPX" when viewing and existing Route
    Make corrections to theoretical route with Real World Tracks and Waypoints


    View Print Ready PDF of Completed Route


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    Mike Shirley
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    "Rally Navigator software made road book creation and editing a breeze. It literally saved us many days of work and an extra trip down the course. We were able to deliver roll charts and road books on a super tight timeline when last minute storms forced late route changes."
    Chris Wilson - Course Designer
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  2. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    Hey mike

    I'm still making routes , how do you swap routes between friends , I made one under my GF name and want to put it into my routes is that possible


    Cheers Micah
  3. LuisLourenco

    LuisLourenco Blue orange

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    Great improvement :)

    One important improvement would be the ability to write a distance in the central column, like in this pic:

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  4. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Currently Rally Navigator will import a GPX track to create a route - We are working on a feature that will also allow a rider to manually drop waypoints in your GPS as you ride along a route. When importing both the captured Tracks and Waypoints to Navigator in a GPX file, these dropped waypoints will become Navigational waypoints in the road book. For example, riding along and marking a ditch, turn, landmark, etc.

    We have this feature working well when using my Garmin GPSMap60cxs.

    GPX file types have quite a bit of variation between gps units, desktop software etc.

    I need a few more sample gps files for our developer to analyze so we can support more units and GPX oddities.

    Can a few of you guys go ride a (or drive in your car) a 10-15 mile route and drop 10-20 waypoints along the way and send me the GPX and Garmin (or whatever brand you are using) files?


    Please send the files to mike@rallynavigator.com and include details of what gps unit and desktop software you used.

    Thanks a lot!
  5. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Luis:

    Thanks for the good idea - we are working on it

    These will be pre made icons 10-25-50-100-200m with arrows at each end.

    Icons will rotate and scale to fit your needs


    Shouldn't take too long

    Thanks again,
  6. SteveDennehy

    SteveDennehy Steve

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    Hi
    I like the feature that can overlay the GPX of the actual route I rode, and compare it with the route planned in Rally Navigator.
    Would it be possible to do a rule check, and generate a score?
    Penalties for missing a waypoint by more than some limit, and speeding by more than some limit, could be given, and a total penalty calculated.
    Possible?

    Just an idea. It is already a great program :clap
  7. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    We have made good progress on this new feature, it's up on Rally Navigator now and ready to use.

    Previously, we could just import a capture GPX Track without any Waypoints into Navigator, a user had to create ALL Waypoints along the track on the Navigator software.

    Rally Navigator: New and IMPROVED!

    Track and Waypoint Import: To create a roadbook using this feature, simply ride along the route and manually create Waypoints in your Garmin GPSMap60 GPS unit at each Navigation Waypoint. Save this file as a GPX using Mapsource or Basecamp. In Navigator, click 'Create a Route" then use the "Import GPX" Premium feature.

    Navigator will create the Route and Waypoints in the Roadbook. You will probably need to clean it up a bit. All of the route info is easily edited using Navigator: Move, Delete or Create more Waypoints and Tracks, Drag track handles to fine tune CAP headings and verify proper placement of Waypoints etc.

    Currently this feature has been developed and tested using a Garmin GPSMap60cxs. GPX formats vary greatly between GPS units, other units may not work. If so, only a track will be imported.

    Take it for a spin at www.rallynavigator.com

    Please let me know if you are able to successfully use this feature with any other GPS units, I'm curious to know.

    Thanks for your feedback.
  8. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Steve:

    Interesting idea. I added it to the long list of development features.

    We have lots of other stuff in the works so don't hold your breath...but it is very interesting!

    Thanks for the feedback!


  9. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Sorry for the double post. I need some help testing this feature and also sample GPX files from you kind folks.


    Creating a detailed Rally Roadbook with GPX Track and Waypoint Import


    We have made good progress on this new Premium feature, it's up on Rally Navigator now and ready to use.

    Previously, we could just import a capture GPX Track without any Waypoints into Navigator, a user had to create ALL Waypoints along the track on the Navigator software.

    Rally Navigator: New and IMPROVED!


    To create a rally roadbook using this feature, simply ride along the route and manually create Waypoints in your Garmin GPSMap60 GPS unit at each Navigation Waypoint. Save this file as a GPX using Mapsource or Basecamp. In Navigator, click 'Create a Route" then use the "Import GPX" Premium feature.

    Navigator will create the Route and Waypoints in the Roadbook. You will probably need to clean it up a bit. All of the route info is easily edited using Navigator: Move, Delete or Create more Waypoints and Tracks, Drag track handles to fine tune CAP headings and verify proper placement of Waypoints etc.

    Currently this feature has been developed and tested using a Garmin GPSMap60cxs.

    Take it for a spin at www.rallynavigator.com


    I need a few more sample GPS files for our developer to analyze so we can support more units and GPX oddities.

    GPX file output types have quite a bit of variation between gps units, desktop software etc. Please let me know if you are able to successfully use this feature with any other GPS units, I'm curious to know. If the Waypoints in the file won't import, only a Track will be imported into Navigator.

    Can a few of you guys go ride a (or drive in your car) a 10-15 mile route and drop 10-20 waypoints along the way and try to import in to Rally Navigator and send me the GPX and Garmin (or whatever brand you are using) files?

    Please send the files to mike@rallynavigator.com and include details of what GPS unit and desktop software you used.

    Thanks for your feedback.
  10. TRZ Charlie

    TRZ Charlie That's MR. Asshole

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    I can't get it to accept a .gpx file..am I missing something?
  11. XRman

    XRman Long timer

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    there are a lot of GPX files at www.transaustraliatrail.com.au

    The ones i did are in the victorian section . South West adventure trail. Basecamp and Garmin.Gpsmap62s

    That looks like a high powered program. best wishes in developing it.
  12. darkstarmoto

    darkstarmoto Am I evil? Yes I am

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    Interesting...gonna have to try this out.
  13. SteveDennehy

    SteveDennehy Steve

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    I havn't used Rally navigator for a while. The yellow dots that used to be at each "point" have disappeared, which is a bit disconcerting. I see that I can still add points by clicking, and now make then snap to roads with Ctrl-click. Attempts to adding with text (Ctrl-Alt-click) causes Firefox to hang.
    Also how do I drag a point that I have created? Or change a point from one without a associated text to one with? Or delete a point that does not have associated text?

    :becca
  14. rinho

    rinho Rinho Féroce

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    I have a Montana, does a gpx file from it would be usefull !
  15. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    A mouse over any point will turn it yellow. Yellow means it's "selected." At that point you can make it a waypoint, drag and drop or delete it.

    If I understand your question, "copy and paste" text from one WP to another, the easier action would be to drag the point to the correct location.

    In my case, whenever FF hangs it's because of a computer or internet speed problem. I have the fastest speed available to me, 1mb DSL. Have very slow load times and editing each node sometimes creates a lag. It's like each edit has to communicate server side before it's a complete transaction.

    Another possibility is the speed tricks noted in the FAQ.
  16. SteveDennehy

    SteveDennehy Steve

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    Thanks. I used to have a yellow bubble for each point. Now I have nothing. Like so:

    [​IMG]

    I opened the route in Internet Explorer, saved it, then opened again in Firefox. Now it works perfectly. Weird.
  17. rinho

    rinho Rinho Féroce

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    Did a short test.
    First, on a Montana, WP and tracks are not in the same file.
    I put all together using Mapsource.

    Then, it looks ok... I have 13WP in th gpx file and 15 instruction on the roadbook
    (beginning + 13 + end of the track)
  18. enookway

    enookway Are we having fun yet?

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    Anyone had any problems printing lately?

    Pretty sure the past few prints I did were done out of the 7 day premium trial.
    Now I am only getting the header page as a print preview and doesn't open the print dialogue:

    [​IMG]

    Also had a few save errors, but have been on a crappy wireless interwebby connection.

    Otherwise, this is quite possibly one of the most useful websites ever created.
  19. JarleB

    JarleB n00b

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    This is exactly the same problem (or one of them) I mailed Mike about yesterday. I use OSX 10.9.2 and Chrome 33.0.1750.117. I just recently tried RN and haven't actually seen it working yet...
  20. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    I've been away from home for awhile - I see a few folks are having some buggy behavior related to printing and log in

    Are you guys still having problems? Were these printing issues on newly created routes? New accounts? Any older users having issues?

    Please empty your memory cache, reboot, restart etc. and be sure you are on the correct browser (Firefox for PC and chrome for Mac)

    Let me know specific details and we will get things sorted out.


    We are getting close to releasing our Narrow dual-sport format printing options - stay tuned!

    Thanks!