Rally Navigator - Create Rally Roadbooks with Google Earth and GPS

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RenoMoto, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. schattat

    schattat Long timer

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    This is so awesome!
    When will you start making "digital roadbooks"? :wink
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  2. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Guys:

    Please email me any GPX tracks that you uploaded.

    Let me know if the track loaded successfully or FAILED to load.

    mike@rallynavigator.com

    Thanks!
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  3. Gian

    Gian dreamer

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    Done!
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  4. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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    guess I should upgrade once in a while.. had firefox 4.0 .. upgraded via browser last night to 12.0 went to the Mozilla site and now upgraded to 17.0... I wanted to add I like how easy it is to go back in and add and subtract points and resave.. also when you are out of ink like I am i was able to print to my foxit pdf reader/writer and save it there.
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  5. greglewis

    greglewis Adventurer

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    OK Great!! :D

    I tried it in Chrome rather than Firefox - worked like a charm. Very fast. I guess my problems were with Firefox.

    It's a great program - kudos, five stars!

    Greg :clap :clap
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  6. fetid_swamp

    fetid_swamp Been here awhile

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    i was running at 30fps in the firefox i had (which aparently is OK, did the fix and was running at 60 so thats all fine.
    but in firefox i was having huge probs with loading and saving.
    as per wrk2surf, updated my v13 to the lasest v17 and not everything is good.
    working like a charm.
    thanks team.
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  7. Evil Invader

    Evil Invader Been here awhile

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    CanĀ“t upload gpx-file? Converted from Garmin gdb via Babelgps to gpx, runs in Chrome. Nothing happens.....
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  8. fetid_swamp

    fetid_swamp Been here awhile

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    dont know if conversion is your issue but i use gpstrackmaker for conversion duties with no probs.
    never used babel
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  9. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Improving File import and route saving is the number one issue we are working on right now.

    What works fine on our computers isn't working at all on some of software and hardware set ups our Beta testers are using.

    In the future, we need to get Rally Navigator less sensitive to these variations.

    For now, we are updating our Getting Started content and Welcome email to get new users started:

    Optimize Your System for Rally Navigator
    Firefox and Google Earth 6.2

    Get the New Firefox with IPC Control turned OFF

    Speed Test your computer here:

    Google Earth plugin API speed test and more info
    Modern computer with IPC off should be 40-60 Frames per second

    This speed test issues a number of Google Earth plugin API calls for every frame drawn. The number of frames per second is a measure on how fast this is done.

    Rally Navigator may make thousands of calls per second to the Google Earth plugin. This is called "Inter Process Communication" IPC for short. If each of those calls takes a tiny amount longer you immediately suffer massive performance penalties. These can be in the order of 5 - 10 times slower that they should be.


    [​IMG]


    Turn off IPC Control to the Google Earth Plug In

    Type "about:config" into your address bar, you'll get to a page with a lot of settings. Find the line for "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled =true" and toggle it to "false". Restart your browser and Firefox will run 3-5 times faster!

    Get Google Earth 6.2 here

    Rally Navigator works best using Google Earth Plugin 6.2
    Not the latest GE 7.0 betas.

    [​IMG]

    Get Google Earth Keyboard Shortcuts HERE


    LOTS of work left to do.

    Thanks for the feedback,
    Mike
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  10. Mr. DNA

    Mr. DNA Motorcycling Professor

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    Did you do anything to improve loading time? I just loaded a track I started last week and it seemed much quicker than before.

    Keep up the good work! I've started planting the idea to my local group to buy 6" roadbook holders.

    So far, this is the best deal I've found for a manual holder: $45 USD + shipping
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  11. fetid_swamp

    fetid_swamp Been here awhile

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  12. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Here is some info regarding GPX import from our developer, Paul van Dinther at Planet in Action

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    Hi Mike, I had a close look at the various GPX files. Some indeed won't import properly. This is due to the fact that the "trk" (track) section is missing in the file.

    It appears that some GPX exporters choose to describe the track using the "route" section in the GPX file and some of the files you gave me contain many routes.

    It is clear different applications write GPX data in different ways. They are all compliant to GPX but it is such an elaborate scheme that the same information can be described in many different ways. I found three different formats of route data in the sample GPX files.

    Right now, only "trk" is implemented.

    Rally Navigator will currently only import GPX files that were saved with route data in the "trk" (Track) section of the file, not with route data in the "Route" fields

    It is possible to convert Route GPX files to "Track" oriented using GPSBabel

    Here is a screen shot of the GPSBabel track converter with the proper windows open to set the conversion from "routes" to "tracks"

    I would appreciate if a few of our testers will try this and report back.

    [​IMG]

    Obviously this could be more user friendly, but does give us an immediate answer to the failed loading some of you were experiencing.

    We are exploring the capability to import GPX files that are also in "Route" format.

    For those of you with extra time and brain cells, here is more info regarding GPX file types and conversion:
    Thanks,
    Mike
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  13. KTMforget

    KTMforget Been here awhile

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    This is exactly what I have been looking for to put together the routes for our annual Selkirks Rally. Let me know if you need more testers!

    Thanks
    Kurt
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  14. Dingaan

    Dingaan n00b

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    Hey Mike! If you can accept another tester, I've sent you a email!

    RB Editor is just not doing it for me anymore, and the only apple I have, I'm eating now! :D
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  15. oossie

    oossie Been here awhile

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    i'm in the middle of creating a roadbook and reported already several issues. Most important "Km" vs "Miles" or even "Meter" option for non US regions would be great for global use.

    But the project is great and love how it works. Also did reating roadbooks in MS-Word, later in MS-Visio (with VBA code on the backend) still wasn't satisfied turned occasionally to TT Roadbook Editor.

    But now with RallyNavigator finally a piece of work that can stand my heat... :clap
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  16. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    I wouldn't mind testing it you need another. I am not 100% sure my home computer will run it but worth a shot.

    Email sent.
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  17. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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    Seth if mine does yours will !
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  18. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    mine is slow by modern standards and a rocket for 2001 :rofl
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  19. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Location:
    sanity?
    Running it on my non home PC right now which is an HP Z400 workstation with 4 processors and 4 gigs of ram running windows XP and it is a 64 bit system. Running GE 6.2 and Google Chrome browser and so far my 700 point GPX file loaded nicely into the application and I am off and editing without issue.
    #59
  20. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Oddometer:
    244
    Location:
    Sitting at My Computer
    Beta Team:

    Recent upgrades to Rally Navigator:

    • Improved GPX import - GPX files created from Tracks and Routes
    • Improved Saving function - Status bar confirms "Project Saved"
    • Progress reporting for import - Displays points as they are imported
    • Support for Kilometers/Miles (much requested!)
    • Ability to show/hide GPS Coordinates in Roadbook

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    Lots of other improvements in the works in the next couple of weeks.

    We are ready to add more Beta Testers - any other folks interested? Please email me.
    #60