Rally Navigator - Create Rally Roadbooks with Google Earth and GPS

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RenoMoto, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. kenaroo

    kenaroo I am because i ride

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    working on a few routes now.. I like it so far.. I look forward to the upgrades so I can download back to my gps, hide map etc..

    I see someone has made a copy of my western loop route.. but I can't edit or save others.. ? How can that be? or are you guys just checking things out?

    great start and it's good enough to where I can't get enough and wasting plenty of my time playing with the program
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  2. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Currently, users aren't able to copy others routes (Kenaroos route was copied by an administrator for development testing)

    Currently ALL routes are held in the public library. We will be developing the route library and sharing system in early February. Routes will stay in a private folder while they are under construction. A route creator will then be able to share the route via email invite to specific riders. OR the route could be marked public and viewed in a searchable route library. (search by: zip code, map, creator, rating)

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    We are considering allowing users to copy routes from the public library with the goal of modifying, adding different portions to the beginning or end, splicing routes together etc. The original route contributor would get credit and the person who made the new modified route would get credit.

    This function is WAY down the road, but could be pretty cool.

    Any interest in this idea?
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  3. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    Way cool. Email sent.
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  4. beechum1

    beechum1 Grimace Soup

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    For sure. Like dualsportmaps.
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  5. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    Would the original route be preserved? As in, would the original user still be able to use the route the way that they created it?

    I'd think that would be a must.
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  6. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Yes, the original route would be preserved.
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  7. kenaroo

    kenaroo I am because i ride

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    That's what I thought..

    think the coping of others is good as long as they have to rename the file so there is no confusion.


    having some glitches.. think it's on my side..

    spent a few hours tweaking routes last night.. marked 90 miles of turns and dangerous water crossings in my TEXMEX route. woke up and went to proceed with the editing and found that none of my multiple saves took and I'm back to almost square one. :cry

    Will we be able to save our road books to our computers in the future as back up?
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  8. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    I would suggest not making the routes all publicly available. Perhaps add the ability for the creator to make them public or private. The thought being that some of these routes are area sensitive and may be created only for a specific event etc. Not that I expect a rampant onslaught of people grabbing routes...but it would be good to have some control if roadbooks might cross through private land etc.
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  9. italrally

    italrally Been here awhile

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    Yes, this is a must ! Here in Germany we have not so much free space like in the US so we have to be very, very careful with our off road riding.

    And on the other side, making a good roadbook is a lot of work, so everybody must have the decision if he wants to share ore not.
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  10. oossie

    oossie Been here awhile

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    Also in the Netherlands we have to be carefull in sharing routes on the web.

    It's already a gentlemens agreement not to share tracks and roadbooks in the open over here.
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  11. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    The default setting would be PRIVATE.

    Sharing could be done with select users OR shared to a public library.

    We will get to this in February when Dave P. is back from Dakar - no progress till then.

    Thanks for the feedback,
    Mike
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  12. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    :thumb
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  13. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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    all I know is I like it and cant wait to try my cal city to randsburg technical track!
    Hope beta testers get lifetime membership! :lol3

    Awesome training tool !
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  14. fetid_swamp

    fetid_swamp Been here awhile

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    just a couple of questions:

    1. how many murders were there in the older bivouacs that were put down to frustrated rage from having to cut and tape all the pages together.
    it must have been a fun exercise when youre tierd and have sore hands in a hot sandy dustbowl bivvy with the wind blowing the pages away,
    sand covering the tape and the flies sucking the moisture out of your eyes and exploring every other facial opening.

    2. following on from this how do i get work to buy a continuous printer that prints on a5 rolls and whats the best one? haha

    3. the text box just has continuous word wrap regardless of the return/enter key. is there any benifit in being able to use return/enter put text on a new line.

    keep up the good work.:freaky
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  15. RenoMoto

    RenoMoto Rally Navigator

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    Mr Swamp:

    1) Lets just put It out there: taping roadbooks sucks. Although, some people (HogWild in talking to you!) enjoy watching others suffer as you described.

    2) I've been searching around for a continuous roll printer, looks like most blueprint shops have roll fed printers 24" inches to 48" plus inches wide. Again, HogWild is way ahead of the game here. If there is sufficient demand, I would love to eventually purchase a roll fed printer and be able to produce and ship roadbooks to users within north America. Haven't really looked at it yet.

    3) you are correct about the text box. For now, you can just cheat it by adding additional spaces.

    Thanks for your patience as we get all of things sorted,
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  16. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    With the paper sheets, it's a question of ME suffering, or YOU. My current continuous roll printer setup takes 45 minutes to print just one roadbook (250 miles). When you guys gang up on me with a group of 8 or 10, there's no way I'm going to sit there and watch those things print for 6 or 8 hours for each day of riding! The damn thing ends up spewing 1000 feet of blank paper out on the ground if I let it print without supervision, so yes, I like to see you all suffer! :D

    I'm building a new printer that should be able to print continuous rolls as quickly as Kut Caselli can blast through a set of Argentina dunes. If I have success with this project, your suffering will be over, and it won't cost you an arm and a leg.
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  17. Gian

    Gian dreamer

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    Same problem here in Italy too, with the difference we are usually invaded by German and Austrian riders who have collected gps tracks in the last years. Often using the Ktm Adventures previous rides... (managed by well known ex-profi Italian enduro riders:evil) You can find them in places even locals barely know... and there are a lot of discussion on the various Italian enduro forums. Unfortunately this problem makes things even harder for us and things get worse every year :(

    All in all, I will only test not Italian tracks or just small portions of them or on-road only, at least till they are public
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  18. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    The technology is out there at work we have plotters that can print on a 34 inch wide roll of paper that is 300 feet long. This however is not for public use. I imagine that there are companies that can do printing for a reasonable price of continuous road book Scrolls.
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  19. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    Just thinking ahead to scroll printing, make sure the program has the ability to print from the last entry to the first (or "upside down").
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  20. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Why would that matter?
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