RallyBlitz - Rally iPhone App

Discussion in 'Racing' started by pilo, Nov 21, 2013.

  1. mex

    mex Adventurer

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    hi there,

    i have 3 little questions:

    1.
    can i zero the display using general bluetooth controler switches with one touch, or do i have to press a button, as long as the km count down ?
    so when i reached a figure on the roadbook, i zero the km (press the button) and continue riding.
    i hope you understand my question?

    2.
    when will the case be available?

    3.
    when will your swicthes be available


    thanks

    mex
  2. pilo

    pilo Rhymes with below

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    Jimmy - Thanks for letting us know how it's working. Hopefully you are using it somewhat during your latest class. That same charger I told you about was able to recharge my iphone after being connected for 24 hours! I'm guessing 3A on the Amazon add really means 0.3 amps....

    AntiPaul - What USB setup are you using? Where did you source it?

    Mex -

    1) Right now the zeroing is only available from the touch screen. You have to go the the edit screen to zero. However:
    - we are testing a "swipe" to zero
    - it is possible we could add a "hold" on the minus arrow and if it were held for 5 seconds it could reset. We could create this and test it if that is what you are looking for. I'm just afraid of random resets...nothing is more frustrating during and event than your odo going to zero...ask me how I know :)

    2) There are two easy ways to solve the case situation.
    - Email AntiPaul from here on ADV or email him on his website highwaydirtbikes.com. He has the crazy cool case shown a near the top of this page. I don't think it is an official production unit, but you may be able to work something out.
    - The easy route --- buy an Otterbox, Lifecase or equivalent heavy duty case and mount it in the RAM X-Grip holder with a rubber band giving one of he grips and extra "squeeze". Yes, with this setup the USB power could be a source for water to get to the phone, but with a little ingenuity it will be waterproof unless you dunk it in a river.
    - I don't know. I made a prototype bluetooth switch shown a few pages back that works perfectly, but I'm stumped trying to make it something that could be sold. I'm also working on a switch that will plug to the dock and power as well, but it is slow going. If anyone has some Arduino experience and would like to help, I'd readily accept the help. So you have 4 real choices:
    A) No switch - adjust odo via vol buttons or touch
    B) Hacked vol control - use headset plugged into 3.5mm jack and glue or double sided tape the stock switch next to your other odo switch (I used this for the Baja Rally and it worked perfectly)
    C) Hacked bluetooth control - a few pages back I showed the bluetooth control I hacked with a lead to match the ICO (or other) switch. I potted the hack with silicone and it is not pretty, but works perfectly
    D) Use handlbar mounted remote control. The volume controls on something like this remote will work perfectly to adjust the odo.

    Sorry about the long answers....
  3. pilo

    pilo Rhymes with below

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    Step on it - I missed your post from a few weeks ago. I won't suggest what you should do, but I'll let you know that I conceived of this App after looking to get a new tripmaster and thought for my use that something more convenient, versatile and with bigger numbers would be better and safer for ME. I'm really pleased with the way it works.

    One other thought. I've been using electronic odo devices since their dawn in the Enduro world many years ago. I seems that no matter how well the pickup and cable is protected that people continue to get failures...hence the reason many (most?) serious rally people run a redundant odo system. For amateurs, the iphone app at the least might provide a nice backup in case your official system goes bonkers. At the Baja Rally I needed a backup system and it was nice to have the iphone to fall back to. On day one I helped guide two riders who's ICO's had gone kaput and they had no backup...
  4. DaveRMS

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    First off, the iPhone app is cool for all the reasons that you mention! Nice work. :thumb

    Not to hijack, but just a clarification from my experience. Most sensor failures are not due to the lack of protection per se, but rather incorrect routing and installation. People tend to use sharp bends, super tight zip-ties, and inadequate service loops. All of these cause fatigue and failure during normal operation. I have logged thousands of miles on a single sensor cable with no protection. And I've also seen lots of first-mile failures due to bad installation.

    Dave
  5. pilo

    pilo Rhymes with below

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    Dave,

    You've mentioned that before and I think somewhere you've even posted a guide about how to do it correctly. To be honest, most of my exposure to failures is east coast and woods related where I've seen sensors get bonked, wires plucked, etc. But to your point, it's totally possible those failures would be avoidable if mounted correctly. My experience in rally conditions for the failure rate is so minor my opinion is pretty much irrelevant!

    Regardless, the fast guys all seem to run multiple redundant systems. It just makes good sense when your finishing an event (and not getting stuck in the dark!) depends on it.

    -Phil
  6. mex

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    thanks pilo for taking your time to post that detailed reply !
    cheers mex
  7. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    Just a noob question. Will this work for the ALCAN 5000 rally? I'm entered but have no idea about any of the computer stuff. Looks awesome
  8. cross-country

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    It will work for Nav'ing a Roadbook (if you are using an RB, Alcan allow for GPS use also, right?). For RB you need an odo that can be adjusted up or down, this does that.
  9. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    It won't have your A/S for the liasons however.

    I don't think... right?
  10. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    I believe they do allow gps. I think there are gps classes and regular nav classes.

    Just looking for an alternative to an expensive ico type computer that I will be unlikely to use and don't want to mount permanently to my bike.

    I've never done road book navigation so it's all new to me
  11. sailah

    sailah Lampin' it

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    I don't even have a clue what that means haha
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    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    http://www.alcan5000.com/2014Regs.htm
    DEFINITION OF SECTIONS
    TRANSIT: A time and mileage will be given only for the start and finish of a Transit. These are touring sections, and competitors may proceed at their own pace as long as they enter controls at the correct time. TSD: In these sections teams must maintain average speeds shown in the route book. A time and mileage will be given for the start and finish of a TSD and controls may be located at any point within the section. Practice is not allowed and vehicles may not enter TSD sections before published opening times.
    DIY: In these sections teams will use average speeds shown in the route book to calculate their arrival times. A time and mileage will be given for the start and finish of a DIY and controls may be located at any point within the section. Practice is not allowed and vehicles may not enter before the section is declared open.




    See TSD and DIY
  13. pilo

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    We don't have speed on the released version, but it is being tested. It is a very high likelihood we'll have speed released in the spring.
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    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    Check out the Vector with the handlebar switch. I use it and though I'm thinking upgrade, it has worked fine.
  15. sailah

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    Got it thanks I assume the as was average speed?
  16. sailah

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    Will do I have the vapor sitting on huge shelf I assume it won't work?

    Just heard back from ALCAN race committee that my modified ninja I was planning on running won't pass inspection because the fuel system has been modified so I ll be shopping for a new bike anyways.
  17. theantipaul

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    I'm testing a newer version and I've dumped all the other displays on my bike, this is truly all I need for now, Speedo, ODO, CAP and GPS w/ loaded moving maps. Along with all the other apps you can ever want, stop watch, temp, you name it, they all go with me. Redundancy is in my pocket with my activated phone.

    All it requires is power, so I removed all the other junk from the bike, really helps clean it up and simplify the wiring.

    [​IMG]


    I've tried a few USB power ports, this one is a Blue Sea Systems off Amazon, charges amazingly fast. BurnsMoto has a few that I have also used that worked very well also. All I can recommend is go name brand, if you go cheap you'll end up buying twice.

    [​IMG]

    Jimmy it seems to me that this app would be pretty useful for your classes when someones displays/wiring goes on the fritz, dead easy to mount with a Ram ball and then they can continue riding on their own instead of just following someone in.
  18. StepOnIt

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    So just a simple question..have you made a switch for it yet??:deal to reset your ODO lol.it looks great just need a way to mount it with a water proof case to the bike.
  19. theantipaul

    theantipaul Reforming Neandertal

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    All I've been able to do is use the audio jack hacked into the volume controls. Like to be able to use the 30pin connector for both the switch and power then there's only one case penetration for cabling. Unfortunately I'm short of time.
  20. brocku

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    Just used this great App for a navigational road rally. Had it mounted to the center of the windshield and it worked like a charm! Used the 2 odo's and zeroing it when needed is a breeze! The distances from the pace notes and this App are pretty well spot on.
    Awesome App !! :clap