Rallye navigation bracket photo thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by wrk2surf, May 4, 2011.

  1. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    Now these are sexy Paul ... :evil

    Put me down for one please :deal ... The question is if they will work with IMO's and Touratech's roadbook :huh

    As far as the ergonomics I think the right one looks easier to use but then again it is a personal thing...
    Now I think about it, may be the left one with one column of three buttons would be more compact (like the middle one that you have in the other pic) . Then you can add another column if the user has a second IMO-ICO thus having everything on the left side. You can always have it in two parts in order for the user to choose the configuration he wants (one IMO, two IMO's , vertical controls, triangual configuration etc)
    The roadbook control rewind button which is at the front. Woud it be easy to use? :huh Just wondering, it would be an akward position for the hand if one has small fingers. May be two buttons side by side ?

    It looks pretty solid and I like the twist it has in the design. :clap ... May be machine it from HDPE to prevent it from breaking in a fall ? :evil:D
  2. cross-country

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    Good stuff Paul!
  3. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    Thanks beany , I have one of those switches in my spares i just have to shave down the base and make a bracket . easy job
  4. lastplace

    lastplace Been here awhile

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    Paul,
    I like your switch arrangement except for one detail: I would reposition the ICO buttons so that the middle one is further inboard than the other 2. The reason for this is that, in a rally, you often must "bump" your ICO up or down to reset your mileage to some point in the roadbook. To be safe, you want to just glance at your ICO at that point and make a mental note of how many tenths (or hundredths) you need to bump up or down. Then, when you are back looking at the trail and not your ICO, you can reach over with your thumb to bump either the up or down ICO button the correct number of bumps to reset your ICO. In the current configuration, you must reach over the "big" ICO button to press the up or down bump buttons. Sometimes, especially when you are not looking at your ICO (as you shouldn't be), you can accidentally hit the big button and toggle from odometer to speedometer. Then your carefully calculated up or down bumps will do nothing to the odometer and your reset will not have worked. Now your odometer is not set accurately to the roadbook and you may miss the next turn or danger. Check out some of the factory bikes, many of them have repositioned the ICO buttons this way. I think that ICO has the stock switches configured wrong for rallying, but maybe they are correct for Enduro, I don't know.
    fun fun
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  5. DaveRMS

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    Tomaz from F2R got it right.

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  6. crankshaft

    crankshaft Guns are for pussies

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  7. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    Tony Schatt's switch is cheaper than the F2R and it has been used to prove its ability. Touratech's ridiculously simpler five button switch costs as much as Tony's. But Tony does not produce in batch numbers so I guess the price could go down a little bit if somebody produced in quantities. Then again it is not something that you change often so you only spend once. A good idea (have no idea about the electronics :ear) would be to have a switch that works with both IMO's and ICO's and a number o roadbooks. May be the addition of an external circuit to allow this? That way, the rider that switches from IMO's to ICO's should not buy a new switch and put on the shelf 300$ (the switch) and another 400$ ( the ICO :D) just because he changed to IMO's or because he changed to Touratech (not a lot of guys would do that but anyways .. :D)

    The design is not that difficult to do, if anybody has access to a 3dprinter (GatosBros ? ) then you can test the ergonomicss before going metal to keep the costs down as you can build as many prototypes as you need. I think it is the CNC which keeps the costs high. It is aluminium so it has to be CNC for the production numbers we are looking. I think everything points to make use of polyethylene here :D :lol3

    Ideas? :ear
  8. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    If I wanted to make ergonomic switch mounts, I'd shape them by hand and then cast them out of aluminum. Would be a fun project, but Paul's switches work great for me (only have start/kill switches mounted on my bars). If there's anything specific that you guys want/need, let's talk about it though. Oh, and yeah, we can have 3D parts printed at pretty reasonable prices if you guys want to test any CAD designs, but this is one of those rare cases where I probably wouldn't use SolidWorks.
  9. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    This like the switch I have one on the right, I would like two more switchs. Below the main three , hi-beam- dip (latching) horn (momentary)
    Its pretty simple and useful then month in indicator as per beaneys switch .


    Wish i had and could use solid works. ( i can get it )





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  10. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    any one know of a good free cad program so can learn how to draw ?
  11. RobertoGatos

    RobertoGatos Go-Go-GatosBros!

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    Try using Google SketchUp, have not spent much time on it myself, but have heard good things about it.
  12. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    thank you
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    I have copies of both solid works and auto cad for PC, more than happy to drop round if your new to either. Although I think sketch up may be easier I haven't spent much time with it. I use some guys in thomastown to water jet out parts. Depending on what your after they may be able to help. Gany I think used them for some parts. Also I have a good supply of delrin which is good for prototyping so maybe we could build it out of that for a start. A thought anyhow.
  14. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    Cheers buddy ,

    We'll have go out riding seeing how we are close I'm in sydenham now so not far at all . I've being think of doing rally training between a couple of riders

    were we each take a turn making a roadbook with RB editor and google maps to a destination , wont be spot on but should be good enough.
    I have a route set out its about 800km from warburton to licola and back
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    Does anyone know where to get a lead that converts the stock square ktm speed sensor to the round ico trip meter plug?

    I've had a look on the ico website and could only find a complete sensor cable.


    Cheers

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    My grandfather helped build licola village during the forest years up there. I know the main parts well. Where your going may be different,,, :lol3
  17. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    IMF effector there in mulgrave and there orange :evil
    I have a couple at my parents place I gotta go steal the TIG back I'll see if I can find them for you I'll be going there next week
  18. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    Google Sketchup is where it's at if you're looking for something that's free and easy to learn how to use. Shouldn't take more than an afternoon to get the hang of. Download and take it for a test-drive. Designing something like one of these switch mounts would be a prefect first project.
  19. beaney

    beaney rally racer

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    Personnlly I've gone back to using the setup below for the simple reason that the toggle switch's get broken, and with the billet switch's its a sealed unit and you have to replace the whole unit, they can be repaired but its not a 5 min job

    I will carry a spare toggle rb and ico switch on the bike and can replace either in 5 mins, in a 4-500 k stage I would rather stop and replace a switch than ride for a couple of hours at speed having to reach up and scroll the rb manually


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    This is just my opinion from experience and dosent detract from the quality of the f2r switch or other billet switch's

    I've always worked on the principal of if something fails in a rally, can it be prevented from failing again, if not then can it be designed to be quickly and easily replaced
  20. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    Autodesk Fusion is another one which I think it is better than sketch up, you can see what it can do in youtube. Fusion is free until April 2o13. Every year they release a free version so the next one will be until April 2o14 and so on ... You can find it in Autodesk Labs site ...


    Good point from beaney... :1drink