Rallye navigation bracket photo thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by wrk2surf, May 4, 2011.

  1. Bli55

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    Wow, what a thread!! In fact, all i caould do today was stare at the screen and study it... :puke1

    Anyway, a recurring theme in all towers is use of alloy over steel (let's ignore HDPE for now).
    I understand that alloys boast with about a third of the density of steel, but surely you could use thinner steel sheet and maintain the same rigidity? Is this true?

    An advantage i can see in it is not really applicable to rallies as much as to normal adv-riding in that a steel tower can be welded in some remote mountai village in need be, whereas alloy.... :cry
  2. tileman

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    Ok. I had a thought :rofl about toggle switches used with some roadbooks. Somewhere I think read that using it for long periods of sustained time can be quite painful. If that is when the roll is being wound onto the roll axle it would be in the opposite direction to what would be wound while on the road, most of the time anyway.

    I mean if the roll went from top to bottom then to wind it on would go bottom to top right? If that is the case or even the opposite directions to save having to hold the toggle in couldn't the toggle be replaced with a mom-off-on switch? I know while using the roadbook in a rally you may need to run backwards but for the majority of the time wouldn't you need to run it in the same direction? Therefore the need to get the paper roll onto it could but just locked on eg, in the on position on the switch?

    I have just come off night shift so maybe my brain is a bit fried so this post may have to consigned to the bin but I thought I would :puke1 onto the thread and see what came up. :lol3
  3. Evil Invader

    Evil Invader Been here awhile

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    Wouldn't be too funny realising you forgot to flip the switch to "off" after say 1.5 km in a rally.... :lol3
  4. tileman

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    Depends, some of the heros in this years dakar could have used this feature ....... :rofl:lol3:D
  5. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    Imagine that AL plates are 2 - 3 mm. You cannot go below 2 in my opinion in any of these. Too thin and will start to create wave effects. SS is too heavy at the moment. I sourced some reinforced polycarbonate which you cold bend in a sheet bending press and it is the staff that they use in the bullet proof glasses. It looks promising at the moment, it is way ligher than aluminium, it has a certain degree of flexilbility and it can be painted.
    Either way if you have time looking for a welder, then you have too much time :D (just kidding) . Towers can be made to be repairable, but this has to be incorporated in the design process. For example you could have cut-marks and the plates will be destroyed in specific points which then you can bolt together using small metal plates and hex bolts until you go home. :ear


    Tileman, Nice Job with the Tower !! Simple and effective :freaky
    Regarding the switch, the buttons should be the wrong type for your hand to get tired. May be the ergonomics are wrong as well. There are some soft APEM buttons which are smoother than a good looking woman's butt :D but then again you have to pay for them. From what I have seen they are very difficult to destroy.

    D.
  6. michael1968

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    Aluminium has a better strength to weight ratio than steel. That's not to say you couldn't make a successful tower out of steel it's just not as ideal theoretically.


    Hey Gany, I measured* 3.7 amps maximum, that was with the backlight on and motor going.

    *that doesn't sound right to me, my multimeter was on the 10 amp setting showing 3.7 but there is a 1 amp fuse in mine. Maybe it 1 amp but a higher voltage?
  7. Bli55

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  8. Gany

    Gany Been here awhile

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    Thanks Michael. The switches i user are 2A rated and the second ones are working fine?!

    Ive emailed Tomaz to see if he can shed some light.
  9. tileman

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    Just had a look at this thread. Amazing trip, bit long to read it all now.

    Heres a closer pic of the tower they are finding a welder for.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524638&page=106

    I figure that welding like such can create its own problems, where as correctly bend alloy sheet is probably going to survive a lot better.

    In respect of being able to fix while in the middle of nowhere I'd agree your probably more likely going to find someone that could weld steel more so than alloy.

    As stated earlier, thats whats great about this thread, different idea's as some people have different needs from the unit that they are building, designing, using (e.g. end use, not always a rally raid or equivalent).

    keep it up!!!
  10. ktm-cool

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    Hi there,
    I was wondering if anyone here uses the rallyraid products roadbook mount.
    The question I have is about the finish of the plate.
    I do some little roadbook adventure tours in NL and BE, using a Touratech RB TTi and ICO. On the other times I use my KTM520 '2002 in some cross country races. Therefore I was looking out for an easy but robust solution to mount and demount the navigation instruments as quick as possible.
    I found the rallyraidproducts solution for the KTM to fit perfect my needs.
    So I ordered the billet top bar clamp as well as the billet roadbook mount http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/ktm-exc/ktm-exc-rally-parts/ktm-billet-roadbook -mount from a german shop as the fees for shipping to Germany are pretty high.
    I received the items and was astonished of the different finish of both items. Both items should have been silver anodized but the roadbook mount isn't. As well the whole finish of the roadbook mount in contrast to the top bar clamp seems to me more like an engineering prototype. Now I was wondering if the description on the HP of RRP is wrong or I really received a kind of prototype (but payed full price). I allready wrote an email to RRP directly (but no reply since 4 weeks). my dealer in germany only had 5 items that he sold and all of these looked like mine so he is in comunication with RRP on this but has not finished so far the discussion.
    It would be nice if someone here could, that uses this parts could tell me if you have the same finish for both parts.

    Thanks,
    Markus
  11. wrk2surf

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  14. ktm-cool

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    Hi there,
    I was wondering, if someone here already uses this roadbook mount of Rally Raid Products in conjunction with their top bar clamp.
    I do some smal adventure roadbook trips in NL and BE using a Touratech RB TTi and an ICO. I mounted this until know with a LC4 adapter to my EXC what is not best solution. So I was looking out for a robust but easy to remove solution because the rally equipment I only need 2-3 times a year, the rest of it, I do cross country and don't want this to be mounted. With these requirements, I found the RRP solution to fit perfect. I ordered the roadbook mount as well the top bar clamp from a local (germany) dealer as the fees for ordering from UK are pretty high.
    I received both parts very quick and now comes my question to you, if you already use the same equipment:
    Both parts should come with the same finish according to RRP HP what should be silver anodized. What I received was a pretty perfect worked and anodized top bar clamp but a roadbook mount that is not anodized. The whole finish of the roadbook mount seems to me much more like a engeneering prototype. Do those of you, who use this see the same? So the description on the HP is wrong? Or is the finish of both items same and I received a pre-production model (but paid full price)? I already wrote an email to RRP but get no response since 4 weeks. The dealer, what from I ordered, is as well in discussion with RRP but as well did get no clear response. So it would be nice if someone here uses these parts and could tell me about the finish of these.

    Thanks,
    Markus
  15. el_heinzo

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    Hello people,

    I made this winter a little on my LC4 and you want to talk to show my results. I hope you like it

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  16. MakS

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    Your opinion on my work?
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  17. el_heinzo

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    Looks good, this is a kit or where did you get that mask?
  18. MakS

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    It completely my production.
  19. el_heinzo

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    good job :freaky
  20. c.vestal

    c.vestal Rally On

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    Nice work.
    How is it attached to the tank?