Rallye tank alternative?

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  1. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    I have searched all over this site for additional tanks for the KTM 640 Adventure and come up with next to nothing. The 660 Rallye tanks would be great but KTM won't let Acerbis sell them to anyone else and KTM won't sell them to mortals (the dogs).

    Someone also mentioned a tank that sits on the rear rack but I dont like the sound of all that weight up there. Then I came across this:

    http://www.outback-guide.de/bikes/marathon/marathon.htm

    What the heck is that/are those tanks on the back of that bike???

    Anyone read german? The online translators shred that page...

    Best I can tell is the tank/s may be from here:

    http://www.ktm-shop.de/

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  2. Flanny

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    Those are 1997 KTM 66 Rallye tanks, and will be even harder to find.
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  3. Slappy

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    Here is another source. I don' know what their status is though. Good Luck. The only caution I would offer you is that they require either relocation of the exhaust or a remote resevoir on the shock or both. The rest of the fitment is simple by comparison.

    http://www.dirtbike.at/ktm/lc4/lc4tanks.html
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  4. meat popsicle

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    it looks like someone may be fabricating the 97 rallye tanks (Thanks for the reply Flanny) or there is some NOS still around. There is a lot of interest in this I gather from what I have seen in the forums. Well, at $475 bucks (x2) they might be a bit much for most (sigh).

    Slappy, have you used these or done something similar?

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  5. Mack

    Mack Gone, but never forgotten. RIP, Mack...

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    I may be misinformed on the subject, but it was my understanding that that syle of tank was abandoned rather rapidly by KTM, do to the fact it carried the weight of the fuel too high up. This caused an already porky bike to be a total pig in the handling dept. Hopefully I'm wrong, and this isn't the case, and these will be a workable solution for those wanting more fuel capacity.
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  7. Happe

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    Hey Mack,

    Theses Tanks are the only ones that will fit on the Adventure build between 98 and 2000 without major changes. After 2000 the rear frame is changed but it is possible to change everything for these type of tank.
    The newer tanks from the 98-2000 Rally doesn't fit with the normal Adventure exhaust system.
    Some of my friends are using these old style tanks without any problems in handling even in the big Dunes of Africa.
    A driver like Meoni, Sainct or Despres will feel the difference between these and the newer Tanks, but we????
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  8. Cat0020

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    Speaking from personal experience.. I would avoid riding the 660 Rallye with the rear tanks filled any chance I get, especially riding around where I am; even a full front tank.. that 7 gallon is great to weight down the front wheel, but in tight trails, or attempts to pick up the bike from its side, less weight is priority for me.
    I don't even have handlebar end weights for my KTMs.
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    Speaking from a complete lack of experience with these bikes I thank all of you for your experience and opinions. Cat, I wonder if you have ever used your 660s rallye tanks for bridging the gaps on longer segments between fueling points?

    I don't know the 660s fuel efficiency but I think the 640s range would jump into the 4-500 mile department. And although you make a great point to not fill them if you don't need to, especially in technical stuff, having them sitting back there would be a big comfort to me in the lonely places of the world (someday...).
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  10. RumRunner

    RumRunner Sit there, turn that

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    The 660 tank...

    [​IMG]

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  11. Cat0020

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    Sure, if you are cruising at 60+ or 80+mph in open desert and you can see miles ahead of you, the added weight of the combined 13 plus gallons of fuel actually makes the bike feel more stable.. where the location of the weight should not matter all that much.
    But when you are traveling below 30 or 20 mph through trails with rough terrain, 2 to 5 ft. raises and drops constantly, babyhead rocks or boulders that weight more than a few tons.. that's a different story. even the weight of your own head can make a big difference in the balance of the bike.
    I'm scrunny little guy, I try to carry as minimum weight as possible when I ride off-pavement.
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  12. Slappy

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    Sorry for the long delay in my reply. I have a right side tank from a '99 Rallye that I will install to my '03 Adventure, pursuant to the work done on this site

    http://www.ktm-adventure.ch/22umbauten/01benzin/02tasche1/index.html

    I guess there is no reason to be selfish about my source for the side tanks. Let this all go out to everyone then and always speak fondly of Slappy. Both right and left side tanks and other associated parts can be found right here in the US. There is only one of the parts listed that is not available and it is not one of great consequence. See this site

    http://www.ktminfo.com/ktm.asp

    Click on parts catalog (upper left). Go to 1999. Go to 1999 Rallye 660 Div (088172). Go to fuel tank; seat; additional fuel tanks rallye 99. Choose your parts. That is how I got mine just a couple of months ago. Sorry about the length of that mess but it is surely worth it. Enjoy.
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  13. Cat0020

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    Excellent source Slappy..

    I might have get a pair just for spare... or to try and fit them onto my 640 Adventure just for fun.

    :1drink
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    Thanks Slappy, very generous of you! :thumb

    I called the source and he says they don't keep them in stock but can order them (2 days). If you want to check on availability just put that in the comments section of the order form and they will contact you with availability only. I only found the L/S tank on their online parts catalog but he said write that you want the R/S tank in the comments section and he will add that to the order/info request.

    I noticed that there are alot of other parts that go with the tanks (caps etc) and probably need some more stuff needed that is in Swiss on Slappy's installation link... are the pics enough Slappy? Or could someone translate?
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  15. Cat0020

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    The right side tank is at the upper portion of that page, without a coordinating number for the right side.
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    As for the parts I ordered, I just followed the fiche at KTMWorld and got the three bushings with spacers and washers (one of which you cannot get) the tank, and the cap assembly. I already have the appropriate petcock and lines but most petcocks have the same bolt spacing. If you are unsure order all but the petcock and see if you can find a cheaper fit. If not then just get the factory one. I have not yet done the install but it looks pain-free for the right side. You must modify the little bracket in the area of the exhaust mount. Also it looks as though the tank is pretty close to the exhaust and may require protection from the heat.
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  17. meat popsicle

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    Thanks for the update Slappy; I would be very interested in your progress with the installation - if you get the chance in the future please add it to this thread!

    Cat, thanks for the help with the web catalog - (Duh!). I should know better and look around. By the way, what business does an avowed anti-tail tank user (i.e. someone who has a 660 rallye and refuses to put fuel in them) have buying rallye tanks for his adventure!?! :huh

    I am not pickin a fight, just trying to make sure there are some left when I get around to buying them... :wink:
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  18. QMan

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    Hmm
    I don't know why no one tries to fit a subframe of a 660 instead of trying to get the tank on the 640's subframe?

    Why doesn't one buy a 660 Rally directly? I would, if I had the cash... byebye Adventure, hello Rally, even if I would only run on roads! Who cares! It's bloody cool!

    Q
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  19. Cat0020

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    I would use the rear tanks if I was traveling through Baja.. or someplace where I actually need to have extra fuel. But I don't if I'm just toying around in local JEEP trails. Besides, they are just cool things to have on your bike, worthy just for conversation value. :lol3

    660 subframe require a different battery, airbox and no passenger footpegs.
    660 Rallye bikes are not something you you can walk in to your locat KTM showroom and place an order for... even in Belgium. They sure are cool bikes though, I couldn't pass up the chance to get mine... even though I don't need it and I won't use it to its designated purpose 90% of the time.. but damn is it cool to have one.
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  20. QMan

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    Knowing the right person helps ;)

    The only problem I have is CASH. Feel free to sponsor me :)

    BTW, battery? Who needs it anwayz :D
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