Rear-rack for KTM EXC

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  1. crazybrit

    crazybrit Long timer

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    What are people running? My EXC is dual-sported so I like to carry a decent selection of tools. Current selection is too heavy for my backpack but easily in the range of what the flimsy subframe could handle.

    Thinking of a rack capable of carrying a small bag.

    Only option I'm aware of is the ProMotoBillet. The one for the 2004-2007 is a lot more coin than the one for the 2000-2003. Odd as they seem similar.

    I have one on my 625SXC and it's gorgeous but not sure I can drop $260 (anyone got a used one for sale?).

    What other options are out there? Something a little smaller (narrower) would be fine. Anything with optional side racks so you could also carry some small panniers?
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  3. crazybrit

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    Thanks, keep em coming.
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  4. wjohnb

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    My vote goes to the Kyteck rack, you can actually stand on the thing, beautifully made. I took of the AL rack portion and fastened on a DirtBags large tool bag and it works very well, the tool bag sits lower but no weight on the rear fender.

    Kytech's Chris Birker is a super guy.
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  5. crazybrit

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    You have a pic of what it looks like with the DirtBags tool bag mounted? Or send me via e-mail and I'll host it.

    Odd that all of his other racks look same as the PMB square design.

    Also, what are it's dimensions? The PMB ones are 9x11 or 10x11 depending on model year. The Kytech one looks more like the shape of the KTM LC4 rear rack but hard to tell from the side view pics.

    The thing I like about the square ones is that you could mount a rectangular 1 gallon fuel cell though that + tools sounds iffy.
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  7. Big E

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    I have the ProMotoBillet on my bike. This is one serious rack. I'm sure it could support anything I could strap to it. Agree on the pricing of those things though. Yikes! Mine was on the bike when I bought it. No way would I shell out that much if I was putting it on myself. Good luck! Here's a pic

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  8. crazybrit

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    If you look at the PMB mounting instructions for the 2005+ RFS rack (pdf) you can see it's pretty beefy and they are trying to get it to reinforce the subframe. It's much more substantial than the one I have on my LC4 which explains the extra $$$ (I guess). They are gorgeous items. I was unsure when I ordered the LC4 one but I'm sold after seeing in person and using, vast improvement over the KTM LC4 rack.

    Someone clued me into: http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/sr8dirt
    I like the smaller "dual-sport" rack (9"x10" 3lbs) more than the larger "dual sport UTILITY" one (9x13.5 3.5lbs). Not sure what I think about the fact that the rack mounts to the arms in only 2 places. I'd have made it mount in 4 using two down braces. Maybe this is the reason for the 15 pound weight limit though I have no idea what the subframe can handle.

    The PMB rack weighs in at 4pounds (I asked them and they put one on the scale) and is 9 1/8" x 11". They don't list a weight limit, only "they should not have excess amounts of weight put on them". Here is a useful link (ktmtalk) discussing the PMB rack (thread started by PMB) - http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=125391

    I don't like the Turbo city Borrego, it's shape is backwards IMO (wider than it is deep) and 6-8 pounds (I figure thats 8 :evil) is heavy on a bike I want to keep as light as possible.
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    the pro billet is the cadillac of rear racks after reading their mounting instructions. The kytech looks nice but it looks small and the price is a choker.
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    shootis Been here awhile

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    If you search on Ebay for KTM racks you will find the Kytech racks going for $180.00

    Shootis
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    I have a PMB rack on an 07 EXC. It is built like a brick shithouse, but man it was a PITA to install. It's like putting a chinese puzzle together, and a few of the pieces they sent me needed filing/adjusting to get the bodywork to fit back on right.

    Now that it's on though, I love it.
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    I just got a PMB rack. Anyone recommend a good bag for mounting to it. Something about the size of the rack. It's supposed to be 9.5x11.
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    +1 on all Kytech's products...top notch all the way and yes Chris is one amazing machinist...excellent work!
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    This is the one I mentioned above. The link you posted won't last as the item# will expire.

    Earlier I said:
    I'm still not convinced on the 2 point mount.
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    Sorry, I didn't read past the first post.
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  17. Big E

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    Here are a few more pics of the PMB on my bike. Can't say enough about how tough this thing is.
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    You're not kidding. The instructions could have been a lot more consistent (they are really clear in sections and totally lacking in others) plus there are some subtle ordering dependencies which make the process quite frustrating.

    My biggest gripe (other than it not fitting square) is that they don't seem to have given much thought to maintenance of an EXC bike. Unless I'm mistaken the right side bolt which secures the black fender extension to the subframe is made totally inaccessible by the placement of the right side subframe bracket. If you need to get this off (to access turn signal wiring/etc) you're going to have to remove the whole rack and exhaust.

    I found the whole design of the right side/exhaust mount to be frustrating. The two spacers are tricky to fit in and with the weight of the exhaust hanging off the bolts I was worried about cross threading them. The right side extension bracket is odd too as it requires trimming the outside of the fender extension. If they just designed it slightly narrower that wouldn't have been necessary.

    Lots of things about the install leave you scratching your head about the design logic which is unfortunate for a $260 item. Clearly KTM didn't make it easy to design something like this but I think PMB could have done a better job. To me it seems like they designed it on one of the models without the black fender extension and only later tried it on an EXC.

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    Anways I finally got it don (all the drilling and plastic removal didn't thrill me much) only to find that the rack surface didn't fit well. The left side arm appears to be too far forward and/or also slightly angled. The rear hole on the left side arm is a good 1/4" away from contacting the rack and the front is slightly too far forward. I can make the rack fit on by forcing it but then the rack is visibly off center. Anyone else had similar problems?

    There is obviously zero adjustment on the right side subframe bracket (as it mounts to the exhaust mounting holes). The left side subframe bracket is secured to the subframe via two clamps and for a while I thought I could maybe move it back but after trimming more plastic and then pondering it for a while I think there is only one position this can be in also due to the shape of the piece.

    I called them, they were helpful but had no idea. I'd have sent a pic but I recently drowned by digital camera.

    In closing I can't in all honesty recommend this unless you like frustration. Also, for the price they are asking, I kind of expect them to include the 21/64 sized drill bit that you have to use :evil

    Too bad, I really liked the PMB rack on my LC4. On the plus side, if I ever get it installed to my satisfaction it's gonna be bomber strong. The subframe does get reinforced (which is why it's so frustrating and requires all the plastic cutting of the fender extension -- not really visible unless you lie underneath and look up).

    Tony
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    alfaris MOTERO TORERO

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    got promotobillet too, is my second 525 and rack comes with me on both bikes.

    nice for TT rear enduro bag or for a 5lts gas tank when needed.


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  20. crazybrit

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    I've been searching for a bag like this, one that fit the PMB rack but wasn't too large. Can you post some more pics from above/etc? AKso what is the TT part#, they seem to list several bags.
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