Rear Shock needed for a XRL650. What fits?

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  1. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    I am in need of a shock for my 1993 XR650L. Does anyone know which years are interchangeable? Also if you have a shock or damper rod for sale please let me know. Thanks
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  2. mcma111

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    Honda doesn't sell parts for the XRL shock like they do for the XR600. I have a XR600 damper rod available. Perhaps we should talk with parts in hand to confirm if they are the same. I think they are.

    The 93 and 94 XRL shocks are 1/2" shorter than all later XRL shocks. Any shock from a 91 and up XR600 will fit but again it's 1/2" longer. The XR600 shock body ID is smaller than the XRL except the later XR600 shocks that were the same as the XRL with slightly different valving.

    The reason I have two damper rods is I bought them thinking I could put them on my L but both bodies were worn out.
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  3. Little Faus

    Little Faus Little Faus

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    I have a 2008 XR650L shock for sale with 6000 miles on it in excellent condition. It sounds like it is 1/2 in. longer than a 1994. PM me if you are interested.
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  4. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    I don't want to end up a half inch longer on the shock, fighting the urge to lower it as it is. Not to question anyone, but are we sure that the shocks are different? I was involved with Honda on the dealership level for many years and it doesn't make sense coming from a parts point of view.

    The linkage is all the same.

    From what I found seat height remains the same.
    If what we are saying is right then Honda raised the seat height on a bike that already had legs.?

    So has someone actually checked this out? Again, no offense.

    I appreciate the response so far. I will get back with you when I am settled on the shocks lengths.
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  6. AZ TOM

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    My 95 also had the shorter shock. I stole one off a 2007 on E-Bay $125. He said it had been used about 600 miles. When I got it , it wasn't even dusty, not a scratch. Must have been all street miles. Much better ride now.
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  7. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    One more thing about the shock length. The part number only has the last 3 digits changed from a 1993 to a 1996.
    Typically Honda changes more than the last 3 when there is a significant change. Most of the time the last 3 will relate to a year model change involving colors or manufacturer.

    I all know is the things I know, and the things I know that I don't know. What messes me up, is the things that I don't know, that I don't know. :huh

    (There's always one in the crowd) :wink:
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  8. mcma111

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    I've tried.

    Next...
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  9. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    Are you saying the 95 shock is shorter? Sorry you lost me on this one.
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  10. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    So you have compared these 2 side by side? Any thoughts as to why the seat height hasn't changed? Seats maybe, are they thicker on the 93-94?
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  11. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    Would you mind giving me a measurement off your shock? Center to center on the bolt holes.

    Thank you very much, this will answer my questions.:clap
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    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    Springs are the same. Linkage is the same.

    Why would Honda make the change? It just doesn't line up. Sorry fellow Inmates, I am not convinced. :lurk
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    Mine was & I now have a later , longer 2007 shock. I had the two side by side & yes the 07 was longer.
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  15. MCCOYBOY

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    93-94 xr650l shock is 14.5 inches eye to eye and a 46mm shock body.
    95-current 650l shock is 14.88 inches eye to eye and a 46mm shock body.
    All xr600 late model shocks 1989/90 on are 15 inches eye to eye and they are ALL 44mm shock bodies.

    The difference in part numbers can be as easy as a small valving change. I haven't had one of the earlier model 650l shocks apart but I'm guessing they used a top out spring which caused the shock to have a shorter eye to eye till spring preload was added.
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  16. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    the last part of your info is wrong mcoyboy

    late model xrs are 91 and up

    88-90 shocks are also difrerent from 87 and down which are longer...

    I have pics and measurements on my rebuld thread so you can compare...:D
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    15 inches eye to eye.
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  18. Lost on Row 1

    Lost on Row 1 Been here awhile

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    No top out spring, good thought though. I concur about the part number differences. My original 93 shock measures at 14 3/4 (14.8), looks more like 11/16. What are you guys using to measure that spits out tenths? (14.88?) Yes I can convert, just wondering.

    Just so you all know, I appreciate the input. I am not trying to prove anyone wrong or try to showoff my knowledge, just looking for some facts.
    This question has produced more shock lengths than the 2 that some say exist. My shock is supposed to be 14.5 and isn't. I have also been given a 15" measured length on a later model.

    Thanks
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  19. elsalvadorklr

    elsalvadorklr southern xr rider

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    guys 88 to 90 shocks are not 44mm...mmk?

    91 and up are...
    xrl shoks are46mm like steve said...

    cutoff years are 1987, and 1990(model year changes)

    my 88 shock looked longer because it had a narrower spring...however the advantages of getting a revalved xrl shock on my xr is that the piston is bigger and the valving can be made to work awesome...also more fluid equals less fatigue.

    thats the reason I opted for this mod, thanks to steves help...xrl shocks can be found in better condition as well, albeit more expensive

    finding a good condition late model piggyback xr600 shock is hard as most get abuses and suffer from rod and pistin damage...

    anyways to answer your question op you can put any piggyback late model xr600 shock, even an xr400 shock on your xrl.

    the older style xr600 shocks will need some modding or fabbing up to fit...

    some xr600 shocks have differente lower mounts, i,e early dual carb xr600 and will almost be impossibe to fit, not to mention they are longer at around 16plus inches

    cheers and good luck

    I would revalve your xrl shock, and respring if needed...

    :D
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  20. acesandeights

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    Might it be easier to revalve and re-spring? Seems the Race Tech Gold Valve is relatively inexpensive for that shock.
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