Recommend a trials bike for me, no comp, trail and yard riding

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Jonny360, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Jonny360

    Jonny360 Been here awhile

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    Ok thanks. I appreciate all the go to a comp comments. But what i'm really focused on right now is finding a bike thats right for me. If we could stick to that discussion that would be stellar. So the gasgas is a bad trail bike, anyone care to expand on that? I've heard beta rev 3 thrown out a lot. Maybe its worth waiting for one of those? I know they make a nice long range seat/tank kit for them too. I believe the long range kit works on the evo as well?
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  2. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    All trials bikes are horrible trail bikes in my opinion. The transmission ratios for gear 1-3, and sometimes, 4, are all trials oriented with almost no gap between them at trail speed, then a big jump to 5th, and in the case of the GG, a big clunk. They all generally shift like trucks at speed, because they're made to only really be shifted when you're stopped or nearly so. You're basically going to be spending a lot of time stuck between your top trials gear and your low road gear, which makes a trail ride sort of horrible.
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  3. Jonny360

    Jonny360 Been here awhile

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    Being a total newbie to trails this is all valuable info. So you say they are ment to be shifted when you are basically stopped? Why would you be stopped and shifting into 6th... just wondering how that works? I know its a trials bike not a trail bike. And I totally accept it won't be able to do everything nor should it. My ideal trail use for it is to be able to drive out my driveway and ride down the dirt roads to the mtn then take some of the very technical climbs on the trials bike. I know high speeds and whoops are not what its going to excel at and thats fine. For long fast rides I'll always be taking my 350.
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  4. Jonny360

    Jonny360 Been here awhile

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    Heres an example of a local trail that I think would be huge fun to take a trials bike up, which is somewhat of a struggle on my 350 at my current skill level.

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  5. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    Go ride one... you'll figure out if it suites your needs more easily.
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    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    Most of the stuff I see in that video would be fairly easy, almost to the point of boring on a trials bike...but I see a lot of epic stuff on the sides of the trail that would be awesome on a trailer! :D
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  7. Jonny360

    Jonny360 Been here awhile

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    Well i'm pointing this out as something to trail ride. I dont only want to trail ride this bike though. I plan to build up a little track near my place. There are also some other trials riders near me and with the terrain in the area i'm positive there are some nice places to ride a trials bike in true trials fashion...
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  8. jonnyc21

    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    I am going to repeat my first post...

    "... even if you don't intend to compete I would swing by a local event and check out the bikes and see if you can get a few local riders to show you the basics."

    I say this not because you are planning to compete but because you will be able to get a chance to see what its all about and ride a few bikes.

    Good luck and I would consider a Beta (250 2T) based on what you are saying... my 2 cents.
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  9. NolanB

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    I'm in Jonny's position except I want to compete... spectating at the local club comps made me want a trials bike. Seems like a fun sport and good group of dudes.

    Trials is a weird world. Growing up with dirt bikes, I was always warned of non-jap bikes being maintenance-heavy and hard on the wallet. Suddenly, all these euro brands are reliable and easy to source parts for? No used bikes to stay away from? Really?!?
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    I beat the crap out of a rotax powered Scorpa for a few years and it never complained
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  11. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    Depending on what your budget is, it would take several pages to list all the stuff to stay away from.
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  12. DyrWolf

    DyrWolf Been here awhile

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    I think he said 2 to 3 k. So what about spending 1500 on the bike . Ride it a little then send the shock out, get some fork Springs and seals , wheel bearings and a clutch. No he won't get his money back but he will have a tight 3k bike
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  13. Huzband

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    And, perhaps most importantly, he'll know what he has.
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  15. Jonny360

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  17. Harry Potter

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    Ya what makes Gas Gas a bad trail bike if you don't have have the funds for a Beta 300 4t ? I have 04 200 Gas Gas that's a blast of a trail bike. Even have a Garmin mount on it. I road a Beta Evo 300 4t for two days on a Tractionerag Woods Runners event in Quebec keeping up with a 300rr and the rest of the Beta Enduro line up and it became my bike of choice after demo riding all the bikes on the trails, (well actually the Beta 350 race edition was really sweet and may be my next bike.)
    As to not having any interest in competing, I fully understand that as I have no interest in competing. On the other hand I have been to 7 Ryan Young classes, Trials Training Days twice, one Graham Jarvis class, Jimmy Lewis 3 times, and Motobenes a couple of times. I just want the Trials Training to be a better Adventure Rider.
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    Whoa, whoa....whoa!!! You missed riding all the rocks!!!!

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  19. Dirt Dud

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    I have a nice Sherco X ride and it is a fun sort of trials bike .
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  20. Jonny360

    Jonny360 Been here awhile

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    And you can even take a friend with you on those passenger pegs! ha
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