Recommend me a warm, waterproof jacket please

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by guiri, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    I just bought a Vee and need some riding gear. I'm a little indecisive about what to get so let me tell you what I have.

    I bought a Walls heavy duty work jacket (carhartt type) and this thing is nice and thick and would protect me
    pretty well in a fall from scrapes at least.
    Of course, it won't protect me from rain, at least not in the long run and besides, even if it's just a little rain
    but you're riding far and it's cold, you WILL get cold regardless.

    At first, I thought I'd get just a rain jacket to put on top but a few minutes ago, I decided to see how it fits
    and it's kinda way too big which means, I'll have a hard time finding a rain jacket that'll fit on top and also,
    I thought, I'll sell the Walls, buy a smaller one and then buy a rain jacket.

    Then it struck me, why not buy an insulated waterproof jacket, so I came to ask for some advice but
    now I thought of something. If I buy an insulated jacket, I can really only wear it when it's cold and it's almost
    never cold here in NC. Granted, I can probably open some flaps or even open up the jacket but being that I'm hot
    most of the time, should I go back to the regular rain jacket option and maybe bring along a sweater or something?

    Important, IF you recommend a jacket, it CANNOT be lined with fleece. At least no where I can touch it as I CANNOT STAND FLEECE!

    Also, I have a HUGE gut so I'll not need around 4x or so, but probably something that's more of a loose fit around the gut. Did I mention it's huge? No? Well, it's huge!
    Around 62" around and most size charts don't even list waists and when they do, they're usually not even close.

    Some drawstrings around the waist would be nice as I PLAN (good intentions and all that) to lose some weight at some point.
    Also, I don't really want to spend too much but I guess I can go to around $350 or so.

    So, advice, suggestions, links, etc?

    Thanks

    George
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  2. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fartografist

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    I bought a great used Darien by Aerostich this fall for $250 in XXL. It's effing huge, room underneath for whatever you might want to wear as a first or second layer. I got an electric liner with mine, she's toasty, and the Darien certainly waterproof. Frequently see used one's on ADV or ebay for $250-300 that are just like new.

    Just a thought. You can go fleece or fleece less, up to you for first layers under it.

    I don't miss many pie stops myself, constantly trying to maximize my traction by increasing my personal gravity at 264 pounds-American. :evil

    Tourmaster or Joe Rocket my other choices, have had or still have some of each, they were good as well.

    Tough to beat the customer service at Aerostich. Stopped in there this fall with mine, told them I got it used and was just looking for a back protection pad as mine did not have it. They insisted on checking the whole jacket out, ran it upstairs to mend a little interior abrasion here and there, and when they gave it back to me you could smell that they touched up the Nikwax water repellent. Asked em what I owed for the additional service, they just said "forget it, we will catch ya next time".

    You wont get that anywhere else. I am lucky enough to be within a couple hour ride of them. Nice people, they are quick to take you on a tour of their rather modest old building, just plain folks, all spoke English as a first language, which works well with me as I am originally from this planet. :evil

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  3. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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  4. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    I've got to agree with UnstableRider. A Darien is hard to beat, especially with your layers of choice under it. You sure won't get wet.
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  5. GSAragazzi

    GSAragazzi Long timer

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    To be specific the AST 2. This jacket is my daily. Not overly expensive and full of features. I've worn it during 100f heat all zipped open with great airflow and currently I commute at 4am in high 20s low 30s warm and cozy with the included inner jacket.
    My solution to you is to buy Underarmour tshirts to wear. I use the dry style (moisture wick) during summer and the heat retention type on winter. No need for heated gear on any other bulky extras. Btw the thinsulate inner jacket is NOT fleece lined. And all pockets and seams are water proof.

    Here's a link with a vid of the gear. Btw I also own the matching pants and they are great. During winter I wear them as overpants with jeans underneath and I stay warm on my 45 minute commute doing 80 mph on low 30s. Highly recommended.

    Link
    http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/olympia-ast-2-jacket
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  6. dnorton

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    I'm not a tiny guy either. A couple of years ago I was looking for gear to wear on a couple weeks long ride where we would be out rain or snow or shine. Looked at lots of various options and even though I don't ride a Harley I landed on the FXRG textile coat. Hopefully the link works - http://www.harley-davidson.com/mcm/...cale=en_US&bmUID=1356882804775&bmLocale=en_US

    It has a zip out liner, which I zipped out and have never used. I wear a gerbings heated jacket liner under it. It also has two large openings that can be zipped open for cooling if needed.

    One of the things I really like about this jacket was the cumber-bun like strap that it has. It helps with with the back support on an extended day of riding. I didn't find that in any other jacket.

    I also got the pants. Finding riding pants for a height challenged guy with a big middle isn't easy. These do have a longer inseam than I would like, but they work. The pants can be zipped to the jacket.

    I've ridden with this gear in driving rain over the course of several hours and stayed perfectly dry. Without a heated jacket liner, if you get cold there is no way to generate heat. "Coats" just hold in your body heat. With a heated jacket liner with temp control option you can be as warm as you want. If you go for the heated stuff, get the full jacket liner instead of the heated vest. You won't be sorry.
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  7. bete

    bete misguided adventurer

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    +2 warmest jacket I've ever had, not sold on the 3/4 lenth but otherwise it's great. bete.
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  8. cardoctor1

    cardoctor1 Been here awhile

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    tourmaster reasonably cheap and has kept me dry on many occasions.
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  9. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Been here awhile

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    british motorcycle gear 'discovery" jacket

    anytime I hear warm and waterproof I think of this jacket - I have lots of gear but this has never let me down, comes with removable inner parka thing, not a great warm weather jacket because of limiting venting

    the BMG guys are great to deal with also
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  10. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    +1:deal
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  11. jprovence

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    Aplinestars Drystar Capetown.

    http://www.amazon.com/Capetown-DryS...6&sr=1-2&keywords=alpinestars+jacket+capetown

    I'm 6'3" and 270. I have a gut and broad shoulders. It keeps me dry and warm without failing. Iv'e already put it to good use in a 30mph slide with just a few little scuffs to the mesh. It has a waterproof liner in addition to a quilted liner under that. You can replace the waterproof liner with something else if you wanted. Its not fleece anywhere on it.
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  12. forrestlaw

    forrestlaw Been here awhile

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    +1 for tourmaster. Their gear has always given me excellent value for $$$. It really depends on how much you want to spend, though. My experience camping has been that gore-tex is worth it if you can afford it.
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  13. frog13

    frog13 Long timer

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    Check out Motoport/Cycleport.No contest.
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  14. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Been here awhile

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    I like my motoport, and it's good gear, but to make it waterproof you need to deal with the liners, which are a pain the ass

    If I know it's going to be wet, I reach for different gear - a soaked and heavy jacket, even if you are dry inside the liner is not ideal
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  15. frog13

    frog13 Long timer

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    Well,I've used the fabric guard weather proofing spray...no issues.Also,I do not zip-in the liners to the jacket or pants....much easier!. One, "could" also order the liner(s) larger and wear them on the exterior of the garments.With what Motoports garments give in protection,wear/durability etc....it's worth every penny.
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  16. birdie_xx

    birdie_xx Been here awhile

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    Check out the two BMG jackets.

    The Challenger and warmer - the Discovery

    www.britishmotorcyclegear.com

    The first one has few vents, the secon a storm collar.

    Both great jackets and you would be buying from an onmate here :deal:clap

    Cheers,
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  17. rebel346

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    Love mine! :clap:clap
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  18. atgatt

    atgatt Been here awhile

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    I have a lightly used FirstGear Kilimanjaro jacket if you are interested... send me a PM. 2012 model in Hi-Viz. XL
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  19. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    Well hell! I am sooo glad you guys made this simple for me.

    Almost as many different recommendations as responses :becca

    To keep the posts down, I'll respond to everyone in here.

    First, let me say that although I CAN buy a $300+ jacket, I prefer NOT to because if I don't like it and have used it
    then there's an issue returning it. Second, although I have a tendency to be able to make my mind up really quick,
    some features can only be tested in rain and so on.

    I like the look and prices of the Tourmasters but have only looked at their rain jackets. Do they have models
    that are lined too to make them warmer?
    Come to think of it, a jacket with removable warm liner but be a good idea...dunno though. Never had one of these.
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    Unstable Rider, if an Aerostich is that much used, a new one will be over $300 easy, right?

    I don't understand this sentence, can you explain please..."Just a thought. You can go fleece or fleece less, up to you for first layers under it."

    I've got a huge traction problem myself as my balance point is pretty high up and it's the size of a medium size church bell :muutt

    Your weight distribution is fairly even though and by the way, nice picture you handsome devil you :D

    Anyway, I'm from the European planet and I speak your language pretty well...take me to your leader (if it's anyone but this Obama character...or the Hilary character..or the Chaney character...)
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    cardoctor1, any particular model of the Tourmaster?
    Seems to be the only thing I'll be able to afford/justify as there won't be much cold weather riding for me.
    Rain however might be a different story.
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    frog13, are you saying to wear the liner on the exterior of UNDERgarments such as t shirts? IF so, how would you otherwise wear them?
    You guys have any pics of how these liners work?
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    atgatt, that XL will probably go around my head but that's it.
    Thanks though.

    Thanks to all of you that answered and although I didn't address everyone, thanks to you too :)

    I'm thinking the money is what's partially going to make the decision for me so I'd like more info on the Tourmasters that are warm and waterproof.

    George
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  20. guiri

    guiri Looking for a good home..

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    "The new model of the Firstgear Kilimanjaro Jacket is an improvement on an already superior product. With a waterproof yet breathable outer shell, the Firstgear Kilimanjaro Jacket has numerous pockets and venting to help regulate temperature. The Firstgear Kilimanjaro Jacket has an inner liner jacket that will keep you warm with a fleece interior and hand warmer pockets."

    :(
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